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PetrolioBenzina 11-14-2017 09:26 PM

The 860 front end is fugly.
 
Not even a decent color, either.

Damn I'm glad I can't see the front end of my 86. I might even make a new-year resolution to get that thing off my car in 18. Could have been the light and color of the car, but my first thought upon seeing it was "JFC, what an ugly front end" instead of "cool, an 860".

86geek 11-14-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3004840)
Not even a decent color, either.

Damn I'm glad I can't see the front end of my 86. I might even make a new-year resolution to get that thing off my car in 18. Could have been the light and color of the car, but my first thought upon seeing it was "JFC, what an ugly front end" instead of "cool, an 860".

IMHO the 2017 86's front ends are fugly as well. If I had to buy another one I'd get a BRZ. Just my 2 cents! ;)

extrashaky 11-14-2017 10:39 PM

To me the expression on the car's face looks disgusted, like it's looking in the mirror and saying, "Holy shit I'm ugly."

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-14-2017 10:43 PM

Disagree. It's aggressive and exotic. The amount of necks I turn on the daily is insane. You guys are just so used to the old face that you're rejecting the new, that's all. It's a normal phenomenon. It's a more mature looking car that'll age better, you'll see.

Tcoat 11-14-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3004840)
Not even a decent color, either.

Damn I'm glad I can't see the front end of my 86. I might even make a new-year resolution to get that thing off my car in 18. Could have been the light and color of the car, but my first thought upon seeing it was "JFC, what an ugly front end" instead of "cool, an 860".

LOL You have been on a front bumper quest since you bought the car. I would have thought you would have found something by now.

HKz 11-14-2017 11:25 PM

meh, tired of the 86 looks ugly threads :s...could we make one for those who like the refresh for a change?






...sounds like we need ludwig back

ToySub1946 11-14-2017 11:31 PM

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PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3004888)
LOL You have been on a front bumper quest since you bought the car. I would have thought you would have found something by now.

Yeah, but actually seeing it in that color and light, nasty. I don't recall seeing another 86 on the road and from the front. It's not attractive.

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3004884)
Disagree. It's aggressive and exotic. The amount of necks I turn on the daily is insane. You guys are just so used to the old face that you're rejecting the new, that's all. It's a normal phenomenon. It's a more mature looking car that'll age better, you'll see.

LOL.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3004924)
LOL.

Lol posts an opinion thread and laughs at an opinion. Oy vey

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3004935)
Lol posts an opinion thread and laughs at an opinion. Oy vey

LOL. Free free to respond in kind.

I'm sorry, I just find a pathetically "agressive" plastic face to be pathetic. And I'm sure that is exactly why they did it, to add some "aggression" to a slow car. At least it could have been a little less aggressively ugly.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3004947)
LOL. Free free to respond in kind.

I'm sorry, I just find a pathetically "agressive" plastic face to be pathetic. And I'm sure that is exactly why they did it, to add some "aggression" to a slow car. At least it could have been a little less aggressively ugly.

I don't know. Maybe my mods have improved things so that the car looks much more cohesive as a package, or maybe it's grown on me, but I actually love the way it looks and wouldn't want the previous years' front end. The only part that irks me is the plastic black fog light housing things. I'm hoping some aftermarket company will find a better looking solution for those.

humfrz 11-15-2017 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3004947)
LOL. Free free to respond in kind.

I'm sorry, I just find a pathetically "agressive" plastic face to be pathetic. And I'm sure that is exactly why they did it, to add some "aggression" to a slow car. At least it could have been a little less aggressively ugly.

OK, I went to google and looked at it real close.

Oh, I reckon it isn't bad ...... I just wouldn't trade my 2013 FR-S for one of them ...... :iono:


humfrz

reni 11-15-2017 02:25 AM

The 860 might not be perfect, but it's an improvement over the 850

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../Volvo-850.jpg

dowroa 11-15-2017 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3004884)
Disagree. It's aggressive and exotic. The amount of necks I turn on the daily is insane. You guys are just so used to the old face that you're rejecting the new, that's all. It's a normal phenomenon. It's a more mature looking car that'll age better, you'll see.

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sit...-motion-03.jpg

https://www.gardens.com/Angry-pumpki...teeth-9715.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5172/5...7ecd074e_b.jpg

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 08:37 AM

Nothing wrong with an evil looking pumpkin. And it looks nothing like the fish. The eyes are different.

Darth Khan 11-15-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 3004913)
boredom
A severe disease infecting millions of people all over the world is which they constantly exhibit certain behaviours like lack of movement, construction of various pointless structures, doodling, talking about pointless things, and making definitions on UrbanDictionary.com.

There is no known cure, though the symptoms do seem to fade when victim is introduced to something time consuming or slightly entertaining, such as television or counting nails in a wall.

Though is it a very severe and wide-spread epidemic, it is not fatal, though attempts to get rid of the disease have known to be fatal at times.



Correcting improperly worded sentences on Urban Dictionary could help relieve boredom for some...

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boredom


My Simpler Definition:

Smart enough to know you should be doing something more productive, not smart enough to figure our what.

funwheeldrive 11-15-2017 09:12 AM

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You know you could get the 860 in Halo White right @PetrolioBenzina ?

It looks like your 86 is Halo White too. I'd personally pick an 860 over a base 86. If you're not a fan of the stripes you can always take them off in 10 minutes with a heat gun.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4u...20-h1200-rw-no

Tcoat 11-15-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3005025)
Nothing wrong with an evil looking pumpkin. And it looks nothing like the fish. The eyes are different.

Well that really depends on what kind of fish you are talking about.
http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/...?itok=bsJF5Msf

dowroa 11-15-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3005025)
Nothing wrong with an evil looking pumpkin. And it looks nothing like the fish. The eyes are different.

Think a combination of the two. ;)

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3005039)
Well that really depends on what kind of fish you are talking about.

Dang. That looks more like a stomach than a fish

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dowroa (Post 3005049)
Think a combination of the two. ;)

That would make a delicious dish. As a pescaterian, I approve.

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 03:39 PM

I need to learn to be very clear.
1. The 860 looks good
2. The 86 looks good
3. The 860 orange looks really bad
4. The front lip of the 86 and 860 is ugly, and matches nothing on the rest of the car, and is there to be "aggressive" so the mom in the Camry knows she needs to run away when she see's you in the mirror pathetically trying to pass.

I've never done body work, so this summer I hope to DIY the ugliness off the front end.
The only person I have to satisfy is me, so we'll see what happens. It does not need much to get rid of the ugly.

tacos 11-15-2017 04:52 PM

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:iono:

Tcoat 11-15-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tacos (Post 3005327)
:iono:

See, you get rid of the droopy nose and I could almost grow to like it. Almost.

Lakitu 11-15-2017 05:19 PM

I have an 86 and I don't see anything wrong with the front bumper, except maybe it's little bit much for the stock horsepower that it has (looks aggressive, but is not actually aggressive). I guess some enthusiasts would call that "rice".

It does look quite evil and angry, whereas the BRZ is the friendly and kind one.

And other drivers probably think you're a douche, more than they would think you're cool.

But I'm alright with that.

Dadhawk 11-15-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tacos (Post 3005327)

Is this kit available aftermarket? It has to add at least 10HP, and definitely would increase your Intimidation points.

Jordanwolf 11-15-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakitu (Post 3005346)
I have an 86 and I don't see anything wrong with the front bumper, except maybe it's little bit much for the stock horsepower that it has (looks aggressive, but is not actually aggressive). I guess some enthusiasts would call that "rice".

It does look quite evil and angry, whereas the BRZ is the friendly and kind one.

And other drivers probably think you're a douche, more than they would think you're cool.

But I'm alright with that.

Most people I have encountered are so confused as to what the car even is, they see Toyota and are like wtf?? Kids love the car though, I get waves from those little guys

mrg666 11-15-2017 05:43 PM

Just felt like adding another picture :) Don't you think it is so cute?
http://images.parents.mdpcdn.com/sit..._291431081.jpg

tacos 11-15-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3005341)
See, you get rid of the droopy nose and I could almost grow to like it. Almost.

Just for you Tcoat, ha cha cha chaaaaaa

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 06:06 PM

I was told it was "cute" and it fits me the other day by a middle-aged, very hot M5-driving single mom. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ui970WI3jbY/maxresdefault.jpg

Tcoat 11-15-2017 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakitu (Post 3005346)
I have an 86 and I don't see anything wrong with the front bumper, except maybe it's little bit much for the stock horsepower that it has (looks aggressive, but is not actually aggressive). I guess some enthusiasts would call that "rice".

It does look quite evil and angry, whereas the BRZ is the friendly and kind one.

And other drivers probably think you're a douche, more than they would think you're cool.

But I'm alright with that.

Most people wouldn't be able to point out the difference between all four front bumpers if you parked the cars in a row. We are really the only crowd that even slightly cares what the front of each looks like.

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakitu (Post 3005346)
I have an 86 and I don't see anything wrong with the front bumper, except maybe it's little bit much for the stock horsepower that it has (looks aggressive, but is not actually aggressive). I guess some enthusiasts would call that "rice".

It does look quite evil and angry, whereas the BRZ is the friendly and kind one.

And other drivers probably think you're a douche, more than they would think you're cool.

But I'm alright with that.

My point is they did not have to change the front end. They do respond to user feedback, though, and it sucks they chose to respond by adding this ugly-ass edgy "aggressive" junk.

My bitch is that nothing on the front bumper matches the rest of the car, and it's there because some clown did feel the need for more fake "aggressiveness". There are any number of cars that are aggressive that don't wear a stupid face. It's such a nice car on its own it does not need fake.

Seeing that 860 from the front on the street utterly surprised me as an 86 owner, as my very first thought was how stupid ugly that front end is. From any other angle, its a very sexy little car, with actual curves you don't see much any more. Until you get to the front.

And it's going to get worse.

I may call my car "Token" to honor the token "aggressiveness" and piss off that other dude at the same time.

It IS fugly.

dowroa 11-15-2017 11:33 PM

In general, if people like it, great. No problem that someone likes the styling.

However, as a much older driver, I found the original front end (FR-S '13-'16) to be much cleaner and a better design.

Personally, I believe the 2017+ BRZ front end is the current cleanest design and I personally like that the best of the 4 overall designs.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 11-15-2017 11:37 PM

Wait don't the 86 and 860 have the exact same front end??

PetrolioBenzina 11-15-2017 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3005512)
Wait don't the 86 and 860 have the exact same front end??

Yes. I hate the front, have grown used to it, saw an 860 (86) on the road for the first time, struck by how fugly and out of place with the rest of the car it is.

86geek 11-16-2017 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 3005265)
I need to learn to be very clear.
1. The 860 looks good
2. The 86 looks good
3. The 860 orange looks really bad
4. The front lip of the 86 and 860 is ugly, and matches nothing on the rest of the car, and is there to be "aggressive" so the mom in the Camry knows she needs to run away when she see's you in the mirror pathetically trying to pass.

I've never done body work, so this summer I hope to DIY the ugliness off the front end.
The only person I have to satisfy is me, so we'll see what happens. It does not need much to get rid of the ugly.

Just buy a Varis front bumper ;)

humfrz 11-16-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dowroa (Post 3005509)
In general, if people like it, great. No problem that someone likes the styling.

However, as a much older driver, I found the original front end (FR-S '13-'16) to be much cleaner and a better design.

Personally, I believe the 2017+ BRZ front end is the current cleanest design and I personally like that the best of the 4 overall designs.

:thumbsup:


humfrz

humfrz 11-16-2017 01:57 PM

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This discussion reminds me of what the manufacturer did to the MGB between 1970 and 1975 (made the front end ugly).

However, the difference being ..... the manufacturer had to in order to comply with revised regulatory requirements.


humfrz

Tcoat 11-16-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86geek (Post 3005722)
Just buy a Varis front bumper ;)

Yes that is much better when trying to look less aggressive!


http://86worx.com/wp/wp-content/uplo...40-800x532.jpg


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