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drz400dude 11-11-2017 02:16 AM

Carbon fiber options?
 
I was looking at some small carbon fiber parts (like fender garnish) and realized they are pretty expensive. Then I figured, hey, I'm a carbon fiber fabrication/repair tech on aircraft. I'll just make my own! Then I started looking up some of the aerospace materials I'm used to using at work. Turns out that shit is super expensive haha.

Just wondering if anyone knows what I could use for automotive projects that may be more budget friendly. I'm looking for dry carbon (probably something 1-3k) and resin. I'm used to using 2 part epoxy resins, but I can probably make due with any resin system.

Gunman 11-11-2017 11:54 AM

Use a single layer of carbon on the visible surface, and back it with fiberglass. CF isn't cheap....the other option would be using a wet layup, rather than prepreg.

drz400dude 11-11-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 3003580)
Use a single layer of carbon on the visible surface, and back it with fiberglass. CF isn't cheap....the other option would be using a wet layup, rather than prepreg.

Fiberglass is a good idea. I was planning on a wet layup, thus the reason I was asking for resin suggestions.

TwistedGray 11-11-2017 03:36 PM

Off topic, DRZs are fun! Had three, one with a 440kit :)

Gunman 11-11-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3003627)
Fiberglass is a good idea. I was planning on a wet layup, thus the reason I was asking for resin suggestions.

You said "aerospace", so I thought pre-preg, lol

Mr.ac 11-11-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3003525)
I was looking at some small carbon fiber parts (like fender garnish) and realized they are pretty expensive. Then I figured, hey, I'm a carbon fiber fabrication/repair tech on aircraft. I'll just make my own! Then I started looking up some of the aerospace materials I'm used to using at work. Turns out that shit is super expensive haha.

Just wondering if anyone knows what I could use for automotive projects that may be more budget friendly. I'm looking for dry carbon (probably something 1-3k) and resin. I'm used to using 2 part epoxy resins, but I can probably make due with any resin system.

Vinyl wrap or hydro dip the "parts" in fake carbon fiber you want. Way cheaper and same "performance" you want. We all know you just want the that "ricer" look. Just be honest

drz400dude 11-11-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunman (Post 3003740)
You said "aerospace", so I thought pre-preg, lol

Yea, for manufacturing the larger pieces we use a lot of pre-preg. However, the department I'm in we do a lot of repair work and custom parts for experimental mods, the so called "special projects." I've only had the luxury of using pre-preg once haha.

drz400dude 11-11-2017 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3003745)
Vinyl wrap or hydro dip the "parts" in fake carbon fiber you want. Way cheaper and same "performance" you want. We all know you just want the that "ricer" look. Just be honest

If I wanted to do that I'd just slam the suspension and put a fat spoiler on the back that creates more drag than downforce! :barf: Oh and don't forget the fart can muffler!

I really just want use composites because I know how to work with them, and if done right I like the look of CF accents. I've just never purchased them personally so I wanted to get opinions of people that have dealt with them in the automotive world.

retoocs 11-11-2017 11:35 PM

Easiest way is to get the epoxy from work that is expired. I work in aerospace too and I always let the guys know that if they have expired epoxy and other materials to send them my way for "disposal".

Other than that, the go to standard is West System 105 which is available at West Marine. Carbon fiber will run you ~$50 per yard. If you really don't care, you can get it through Alibaba and various other Chinese places.

Mr.ac 11-11-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by drz400dude (Post 3003756)
If I wanted to do that I'd just slam the suspension and put a fat spoiler on the back that creates more drag than downforce! :barf: Oh and don't forget the fart can muffler!

I really just want use composites because I know how to work with them, and if done right I like the look of CF accents. I've just never purchased them personally so I wanted to get opinions of people that have dealt with them in the automotive world.

Lol I knew what you meant I was just being a ****. Lol sarcasm doesn't translate too well on the internet.

I work a bit with carbon fiber but I rather have them painted just enough to where have to look real close to the the inlay pattern.

Mackizzle86 11-12-2017 12:36 AM

I've used Smooth-On EpoxAmite. They worked really well for me.

olsonpg 11-12-2017 01:00 AM

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Carb...3-a1593df31db7

I buy my carbon from china for next to nothing. I think i got 20 square yards of it on my last order.

drz400dude 11-12-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 3003758)
Easiest way is to get the epoxy from work that is expired. I work in aerospace too and I always let the guys know that if they have expired epoxy and other materials to send them my way for "disposal".

Other than that, the go to standard is West System 105 which is available at West Marine. Carbon fiber will run you ~$50 per yard. If you really don't care, you can get it through Alibaba and various other Chinese places.

I wish we had expired stuff! We use a lot of Hysol 9396, but we use so much it never expires. The only thing we use that expires is 5 minute epoxy :cry:.

drz400dude 11-12-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by olsonpg (Post 3003780)

I buy my carbon from china for next to nothing. I think i got 20 square yards of it on my last order.

Thanks, that is cheap! Found some 282 3k plain weave for $6 for a 1'x3' piece. I'll give it a shot and see how it works.


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