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churchx 10-26-2017 06:48 AM

You are not politically correct enough for all those lip-less cars out there! It's discrimination!

Tokay444 10-26-2017 10:36 AM

Just call it a bumper cover. That's what it is.

mav1178 10-26-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2996658)
Just call it a bumper cover. That's what it is.

But it doesn't cover 90% of the bumper.

Tokay444 10-26-2017 01:45 PM

The bumper is 100% covered.

norcalpb 10-26-2017 05:13 PM

Are you guys talking about the valence?

Subaru technically calls it a diffuser and in the official BRZ brochure Subaru claims the channeled roof and diffuser both reduce drag.

Low .28 Coefficient of Drag2
To a sports car, wind is like weight—the more of
it you have to move, the more it takes from your ability to perform. Features like a channeled roof and rear diffuser help the BRZ cut through the air, sharpening the performance you’ll feel.

Tokay444 10-26-2017 05:45 PM

All the rear bumper cover acts like is a parachute.
Put an actual diffuser on it and you'll notice the difference.

norcalpb 10-26-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2996843)
All the rear bumper cover acts like is a parachute.
Put an actual diffuser on it and you'll notice the difference.

The suitcase oem muffler has an angle to it that persuaded air under the bumper cover.

I have a velox diffuser and yes it’s better but that’s not to say the oem one is a parachute

churchx 10-27-2017 02:17 AM

norcalpb: oem one is parachute depending on what catback is used, as it works together with catback-s muffler. If there are different shaped aftermarket mufflers, eg. longitudinally placed or at angle, then they would benefit from extra diffuser or in general some aero element to to direct flow around stock bumper cover's edge.

Cole 10-27-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2996981)
norcalpb: oem one is parachute depending on what catback is used, as it works together with catback-s muffler. If there are different shaped aftermarket mufflers, eg. longitudinally placed or at angle, then they would benefit from extra diffuser or in general some aero element to to direct flow around stock bumper cover's edge.

He said the OEM muffler. Your reading comprehension skills need a tune up.

churchx 10-27-2017 03:56 PM

No need to. Like some spellchecker clippy, you'll always stick around and will correct any mistakes.

norcalpb 10-27-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2996981)
norcalpb: oem one is parachute depending on what catback is used, as it works together with catback-s muffler. If there are different shaped aftermarket mufflers, eg. longitudinally placed or at angle, then they would benefit from extra diffuser or in general some aero element to to direct flow around stock bumper cover's edge.

To expand on this, if you don’t have a muffler you can still buy these for pretty cheap to maintain the flow that the stock muffler creates. I agree that a car without a muffler is creating a parachute due to the openness behind the bumper.

Apexi:
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi...diffuser-4.jpg

Trd:
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/mm...S342-18003.jpg

Borla:
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-8488678...ion-fr-s-3.gif

mav1178 10-27-2017 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2996727)
The bumper is 100% covered.

Is it?
Show me how the diffuser covers 100% of the bumper?

Tokay444 10-27-2017 05:11 PM

There is no diffuser.
There is bumper cover, and that bumper cover covers 100% of the bumper.
A bumper cover being what lay people call a bumper, and a bumper being what lay people call a crash bar.
Does that explain it for you to understand more easily?

mav1178 10-27-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2997232)
There is no diffuser.
There is bumper cover, and that bumper cover covers 100% of the bumper.
A bumper cover being what lay people call a bumper, and a bumper being what lay people call a crash bar.
Does that explain it for you to understand more easily?

Oh cool, a lay person. I must be a lay person.

Feel free to educate Subaru too, but feel free to place blame on their marketing department.

https://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_20...10-591-01.html


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