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Jcas 10-05-2017 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2988142)
Two things. This screams used... And also, no mods till you have a rainy day fund. Also, patience is worth the practice. You will find more and more times your immediate wants may work out better with patience. I have still never purchased that car I really wanted (want still). Doesn't mean this isn't a good time to treat yourself, you need to do that too.

Where will you park? Can you afford the insurance? Will it be a vandalism target? (A couple locals are having issues with this, sadly.) Where will you work in it if you do the mods? Will you be able to afford to fix it if it breaks? Can you do without the car if not? College is a busy time.

I got my first new car (a Neon ACR) as a treat for landing my first real job out of college. It felt good having earned it rather than scratching that "want" itch... Especially because the want itch would bankrupt me.

Not going to say you shouldn't jump in, but trying to share some things I've learned that might help you consider the options.

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There's a ton of things to consider. I really think I could handle it but I think I want to wait like 3-4 more months just to save up a few more thousand and then find the right brz for me. Luckily vandalism isn't a problem where I live. And parking isn't an issue I have a garage. I can afford payments pretty easily, and mods can be done in my garage for sure! Just have to be patient like you said which is hard to do when I daily an automatic cobalt 🙄Kills me just wanna be driving my manual brz around already. First car I learned to drive was manual and its a lot better then auto, really don't like auto haha.

cjd 10-05-2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcas (Post 2988469)
There's a ton of things to consider. I really think I could handle it but I think I want to wait like 3-4 more months just to save up a few more thousand and then find the right brz for me. Luckily vandalism isn't a problem where I live. And parking isn't an issue I have a garage. I can afford payments pretty easily, and mods can be done in my garage for sure! Just have to be patient like you said which is hard to do when I daily an automatic cobalt ��Kills me just wanna be driving my manual brz around already. First car I learned to drive was manual and its a lot better then auto, really don't like auto haha.

You'll do alright. I drove an S10 for years, and it was probably the perfect car to have even though I didn't particularly like it. Manual 4cyl, RWD, extended cab... could squeeze 3 people in it (not legal I'd guess, no seat belt on the milk crate...) and haul all our supplies (art students need to haul crazy stuff!)

That Cobalt gets you here and there, hauls people, is quiet (I assume...), doesn't freak out your date when you try to show off.... lots of good things about it. Not sure if it's paid off, but the insurance is probably half what the BRZ would be. Not having monthly payments is so nice. Lets you do that summer gig because you can skip the bills when you don't have any... (I missed a summer in India because... well, I didn't have a car payment, just an apartment with 2 roommates, but hell, it was stupid to pass on that opportunity).

Even better, save up for one so you can pay cash when you get there. You're just as actively paying for it. Force yourself the monthly amount into a savings account - that proves you can handle it (plus, if you set aside the extra the insurance would cost you'll get there faster). They'll be around when it's time to buy one.

Poodles 10-06-2017 01:12 AM

Any financial planner will tell you to buy used, if you have to buy a car. Cars are NOT investments, period. Cars are necessities at their lowest level and enjoyment at their best.

I chose new because it's only new once, and I'll know the history of the car. It will also have a warranty for when the inevitable issues crop up (been minor stuff, but it's fixed for free). It's MINE and nobody has smoked in it, or done some ungodly bullshit repairs to it that I've had to deal with on other cars.

The piece of mind was worth the added cost IMHO, but that's 100% a personal thing and I don't look down on people that buy used at all.

Berzerk 10-06-2017 01:55 AM

I purchased new. Knowing what I know now about the car and how I want to go about with it, I probably should have bought used. I don't really regret buying new because I do love my car and knowing that it has been unmolested and no prior history.

After having my BRZ for about eight months, I realize I can't resist the mod bug. I haven't done a lot to my car, but I'd love to do a lot more. It would have been better to buy used at lower cost to support modding.

EdBoy 10-06-2017 03:23 AM

if it fits your budget and you really want one, then yes used is more practicable. If you really want a new car then be sure that you can afford it.
Usually people buy used due to cheaper price because lets be real, depreciation factor.

Roth 10-06-2017 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EdBoy (Post 2988519)
Usually people buy used due to cheaper price because lets be real, depreciation factor.

This is why I took mine used. Very low mileage (under 10k miles) and well maintained, bone stock and owned previously by an adult man in his 50s.

It's "as new" and I saved a lot.
Here in Norway we have crazy high taxes on cars, so a new Gt86 comes at about 500'000 Norwegian Kroner (62thousands US dollars, today).

Plus, with a good insurance that covers every kind of mechanical issue, the toyota warranty is not a determinant factor.

Jcas 10-06-2017 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2988476)
You'll do alright. I drove an S10 for years, and it was probably the perfect car to have even though I didn't particularly like it. Manual 4cyl, RWD, extended cab... could squeeze 3 people in it (not legal I'd guess, no seat belt on the milk crate...) and haul all our supplies (art students need to haul crazy stuff!)

That Cobalt gets you here and there, hauls people, is quiet (I assume...), doesn't freak out your date when you try to show off.... lots of good things about it. Not sure if it's paid off, but the insurance is probably half what the BRZ would be. Not having monthly payments is so nice. Lets you do that summer gig because you can skip the bills when you don't have any... (I missed a summer in India because... well, I didn't have a car payment, just an apartment with 2 roommates, but hell, it was stupid to pass on that opportunity).

Even better, save up for one so you can pay cash when you get there. You're just as actively paying for it. Force yourself the monthly amount into a savings account - that proves you can handle it (plus, if you set aside the extra the insurance would cost you'll get there faster). They'll be around when it's time to buy one.

Yeah the cobalt does what it needs to do gets me from point A to B no prolems and for the most part she's quite haha. But yeah I feel you def would limit doing things that cost a bit more to do and you would miss out on opportunities. But yeah think the best thing to do like you said is just save and when he time is right there will be one for me. Thanks for the advice on everything really appreciate it.

perryair 10-06-2017 01:42 PM

well, look at everyone you see posting on these boards and how often you see "changing back to stock". on a brand new car with it being the kind that a lot of people mod you can at least be sure that there wasnt a terribly installed turbo with a tune that may not be correctly wiped off and suspension mods that may or may not have damaged any of the structural integrity of anything, for just some rough and totally random examples.

but yes, you do get to be able to take advantage of someone else paying depreciation if you do go used. if you go that route, try to at least find an example with a carfax that shows one owner and regular service intervals and use the extra money on your own mods.. which no doubt you will take off and sell to someone else that is hoping that you didn't do a bad job with your mods.

jvincent 10-06-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Roth (Post 2988541)
Here in Norway we have crazy high taxes on cars, so a new Gt86 comes at about 500'000 Norwegian Kroner (62thousands US dollars, today).

Holy Shit!

You guys should lobby to use some of that oil money for lower car taxes.

EdBoy 10-06-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Roth (Post 2988541)
This is why I took mine used. Very low mileage (under 10k miles) and well maintained, bone stock and owned previously by an adult man in his 50s.

It's "as new" and I saved a lot.
Here in Norway we have crazy high taxes on cars, so a new Gt86 comes at about 500'000 Norwegian Kroner (62thousands US dollars, today).

Plus, with a good insurance that covers every kind of mechanical issue, the toyota warranty is not a determinant factor.


wow! thats quite a lot.

JeremyR 10-06-2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcas (Post 2987825)
My plans for the car include modding it of course. It's just such a nice platform to work with and I really like it. I have everything planned out already that I want for it and what not just of course finding one that is good enough condition and passes what I think is exceptional car can be challenging. It's kind of unfortunate that I'm somewhat of a perfectionist and I like things to be super maintained and everything to be in it's place, also little bit of OCD haha. But I think used is the way I'd like to go for sure.


I'm the exact same way! Although I bought my car sight unseen, so I was less than thrilled at the minor cosmetic issues it had. (which have all, for the most part, been fixed)

If I had to do it again, I would of just bought local so I could inspect the car better. I got a great deal though, which left me with more money for mods, so I guess that makes up for it. :burnrubber:

~el~jefe~ 10-09-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2987774)
There are certainly pros and cons for each.
The guys that bought used will say it is better.
The guys that bought new will say it is.
Both have very valid points but will say the other group are wrong.

both groups are wrong

why? 10-09-2017 06:50 PM

I bought slightly used, as in a 2015 series.blue with 3,000 miles because I hated the red interior. I now kind of wish I bought a 2013 FRS and saved the money for mods, because I've changed a bunch more than I expected too, but oh well.

If you want to mod the car at all then might as well go used. Any imperfections can be modded away with something more to your liking for far less than getting a newer lower mileage car.

chaoskaze 10-09-2017 09:38 PM

for now, yes, cuz they are all super low mile.

Plus it's easy to find one that's not boosted before...


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