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Boxer-4 07-20-2012 03:47 AM

EVO: Toyota GT86 vs Renault Clio RS
 
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1338/tvr1.th.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6939/tvr2.th.jpghttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5728/tvr3.th.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7127/tvr4a.th.jpghttp://img404.imageshack.us/img404/219/tvr5.th.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3622/tvr6.th.jpghttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6852/tvr7.th.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7949/tvr8.th.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1895/tvr9.th.jpghttp://img703.imageshack.us/img703/774/tvr10.th.jpg

Thanks to GCF

yormaX 07-20-2012 04:16 AM

The last scan it says the Toyota GT86 Top speed is "225MPH"

Boxer-4 07-20-2012 04:19 AM

Kph there's no way it will do 225mph :)

SUB-FT86 07-20-2012 08:09 AM

225 km

SUB-FT86 07-20-2012 08:30 AM

Just reading this makes me think back about the video that SubaruWRXFan made about the BRZ not feeling exciting enough and never feeling drama-like. Also I didn't know that the GT86 had understeer? This is the first review I've seen with it.

mclevin 07-20-2012 08:47 AM

Finally! Someone compares to cars in the same league...both 2.0l 150kw built with one sole focus "handling" why would you compare it with the rs250.
These 2 cars I was tossing up between. Opted for gt86. Only for the fact I have an ae86 and aftermarket parts availabilty.

And its been well documented that the 86 is set up for understeer ie softer front springs than that of the brz.

SUB-FT86 07-20-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclevin (Post 327737)
Finally! Someone compares to cars in the same league...both 2.0l 150kw built with one sole focus "handling" why would you compare it with the rs250.
These 2 cars I was tossing up between. Opted for gt86. Only for the fact I have an ae86 and aftermarket parts availabilty.

And its been well documented that the 86 is set up for understeer ie softer front springs than that of the brz.



Its actually the other way around in America.

David1976 07-20-2012 08:54 AM

One of the only questionable reviews I have read on the GT86. I guess you will always have one...

SUB-FT86 07-20-2012 08:59 AM

What also bothers me is how they make the Renault engine seem like it has way more power over the 86's engine which would mean that the Renault's powerband feels more visceral(which I love).

RaceR 07-20-2012 10:24 AM

Scans are great! :) Wish everyone could scan magazines like this.. :)
Thanks for sharing..

DarkSunrise 07-20-2012 11:35 AM

Why is it that the only bad reviews are always coming from Evo magazine? I can't shake the feeling they've never quite recovered from giving that initial BRZ-AT they tested poor marks. It's like they're always trying to justify that initial poor review.

Also, for a magazine that prides itself on being enthusiast-focused, why is it they always seem to find themselves in the least enthusiast-focused Toyobaru models (BRZ-AT, base level FR-S lacking LSD)? Odd...

Turbowned 07-20-2012 11:47 AM

EVO, your man card has been revoked! Everyone else agrees that the (GT)86/FR-S/BRZ are the best damn sports cars on the market right now. Why can't you accept it? Keep driving your silly little French cars, you English pigdogs!

alyon 07-20-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 327919)
Why is it that the only bad reviews are always coming from Evo magazine? I can't shake the feeling they've never quite recovered from giving that initial BRZ-AT they tested poor marks. It's like they're always trying to justify that initial poor review.

Also, for a magazine that prides itself on being enthusiast-focused, why is it they always seem to find themselves in the least enthusiast-focused Toyobaru models (BRZ-AT, base level FR-S lacking LSD)? Odd...

FRS has an LSD...

Every since Toyota fucked them by sending an AT to a track test they have held a grudge.

DarkSunrise 07-20-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyon (Post 327970)
FRS has an LSD...

In the UAE, the base model Toyo 86 doesn't come with LSD. You can see Evo tested the base model because of the 16" wheels seen in the pictures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyon (Post 327970)
Every since Toyota fucked them by sending an AT to a track test they have held a grudge.

Haha yeah also helps sell magazines by being controversial, I would imagine.


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