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LudwigMiles 09-10-2017 10:48 PM

The BRZ/FRS/86 can pass cars like a motherF'er
 
provided you actually know how to drive.

Let's use this thread to show prospective buyers that the 86 can leave other cars in the dust, when correctly dropped into the upper ranges.
It will also teach current owners who do not understand how to downshift ...how this works.

Please post dashcam clips that demonstrate correct passing. I'll post one in the next day or two.

Boomerang 09-10-2017 11:13 PM

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Cole 09-10-2017 11:19 PM

Actually, most any car is capable of passing other cars on the highway, it's when the car you're trying to pass also puts the pedal down where it becomes very clear just how slow the twins are.

10/10 though, great thread for sure.

Somerandom18 09-10-2017 11:27 PM

Oh boy.

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StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-10-2017 11:36 PM

I don't know, I shift down to 5th and nothing happens lol. I'm kinda scared to go straight to 4th

Decep 09-10-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976244)
I don't know, I shift down to 5th and nothing happens lol. I'm kinda scared to go straight to 4th

Wow. See OP's post on learning how to drive :) Time to practice your rev matches.

Decep 09-10-2017 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2976239)
Actually, most any car is capable of passing other cars on the highway, it's when the car you're trying to pass also puts the pedal down where it becomes very clear just how slow the twins are.

10/10 though, great thread for sure.

True that, but if people are gonna be ****s, they're gonna be ****s. If they have 270HP and are preventing you from passing, most likely they'd do the same if we had 240hp. You need 400hp to really be MUCH faster than most things on the road... that's mustang GT territory. Fun car to drive but not really comparable to the twins.. kind of more of a pickup truck feel... though i've yet to drive the newest gen.

palanza87 09-11-2017 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 2976254)
True that, but if people are gonna be ****s, they're gonna be ****s. If they have 270HP and are preventing you from passing, most likely they'd do the same if we had 240hp. You need 400hp to really be MUCH faster than most things on the road... that's mustang GT territory. Fun car to drive but not really comparable to the twins.. kind of more of a pickup truck feel... though i've yet to drive the newest gen.

can confirm mustang vs driving this totally different experience.

the mustang is like mashing the gas and holding on to a bolting horse while the frs is like feeling as if you are part of the car itself on the road.

Ultramaroon 09-11-2017 12:15 AM

Third in any situation involving remotely legal speeds. Practice staying north of 4500 RPM. If you're not a double-clutcher, row your way down to third. (clutch in, 5-4-3, rev up, clutch out) Do not go straight 6-3 unless you have zero respect for mechanical things.

continuecrushing 09-11-2017 12:25 AM

no lie, doing 5k in 4th gear and dropping to 2nd provides a great boost-VTEC kicks in, yo

Ultramaroon 09-11-2017 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by continuecrushing (Post 2976261)
no lie, doing 5k in 4th gear and dropping to 2nd provides a great boost-VTEC kicks in, yo

:popcorn:

palanza87 09-11-2017 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by continuecrushing (Post 2976261)
no lie, doing 5k in 4th gear and dropping to 2nd provides a great boost-VTEC kicks in, yo

i accidentally jammed it into 2nd from 3rd before instead of 4th in my mustang. super glad i didnt fuck anything up

swarb 09-11-2017 01:01 AM

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HKz 09-11-2017 01:11 AM

um but how can u beat anyone if u double clutch on upshifts??

Somerandom18 09-11-2017 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb (Post 2976275)

My hero!

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Syche 09-11-2017 01:52 AM

i wants the popcorn LOL, but to add my two cents yeah i dont really have much of a problem with passing infact I just went on a 10 car cruise with some friends through the mountains, I am obviously the second slowest car there with the second slowest being a stock focus st, with rx7 and hawkeye being the fastest two there both heavily modified ( 500 hp+)

ANYWAYS... All ten of us were not having an issue and thankfully for me I didnt have much trouble keeping up on our spirited drive. Passes were far from risky and to be fair in the corners when they obviously werent in boost I made up some of the slack, but as soon as those straight aways happened... oh lord, you really realized how slow the twins are.

But damn was it ever a blast running with about 3300HP (total of the cars estimated) give or take a hundred through the mountians.

fierostetz 09-11-2017 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 2976237)

this reminds me of a video my friend sent me of a naked chick skydiving

Clipdat 09-11-2017 02:49 AM

Why do you try so hard?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LudwigMiles (Post 2976229)
provided you actually know how to drive.

Let's use this thread to show prospective buyers that the 86 can leave other cars in the dust, when correctly dropped into the upper ranges.
It will also teach current owners who do not understand how to downshift ...how this works.

Please post dashcam clips that demonstrate correct passing. I'll post one in the next day or two.


Mr.ac 09-11-2017 06:02 AM

A 2010 civic si is faster then the 86.
Just say'n
I would post a vid tomorrow.

LudwigMiles 09-11-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2976278)
um but how can u beat anyone if u double clutch on upshifts??

You do not double clutch on up shifts.
Only downshifts.

new2subaru 09-11-2017 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976244)
I don't know, I shift down to 5th and nothing happens lol. I'm kinda scared to go straight to 4th

Stop using 6th. :)

Our highways in the GTA are far too crowded to just cruise...

paulca 09-11-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976244)
I don't know, I shift down to 5th and nothing happens lol. I'm kinda scared to go straight to 4th

At "highway speeds" I'd go straight to 3rd! 45 or below I'd go straight to 2nd FFS!

Braces 09-11-2017 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fierostetz (Post 2976302)
this reminds me of a video my friend sent me of a naked chick skydiving

I just spilled my coffee reading this. Well done. :bow:

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 09-11-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulca (Post 2976391)
At "highway speeds" I'd go straight to 3rd! 45 or below I'd go straight to 2nd FFS!

Ok I don't know MPH so I'm gonna do kph. So I'm on the highway, let's say doing 110, there is a goody goody two shoes citizen in front of me doing 100 on the dot. I'm behind him, have to slow down to his speed, then an opportunity to pass opens up, and I put it into 4th from 6th? How do I blip 2 gears worth of revs? It just seems mechanically unsympathetic to me. Either way it just feels like a decent jolt to the system.

paulca 09-11-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976412)
Ok I don't know MPH so I'm gonna do kph. So I'm on the highway, let's say doing 110, there is a goody goody two shoes citizen in front of me doing 100 on the dot. I'm behind him, have to slow down to his speed, then an opportunity to pass opens up, and I put it into 4th from 6th? How do I blip 2 gears worth of revs? It just seems mechanically unsympathetic to me. Either way it just feels like a decent jolt to the system.

110 is about 65 mph. 3rd would be a bit extreme though it would work 80mph (130kph) is about the red line in 3rd. 4th will work allowing you to continue to about 160kph if the goody two shoes wants a race.

Clutch in, shift to 4th (being gentle but swift), apply the accelerator and lift the clutch as the revs zoom, apply the rest of the accelerator. Shout "WOOHOO!", give the ole bird the finger as you pass.

If you want you can practice the timing so the revs match that required in 4th as the clutch releases but it's less important. However the REALLY important thing is to lift the revs up and be applying throttle when the clutch begins to catch. If you left the revs drop even more and release the clutch you will get a horrid jolt forward and could potentially (in the wet) lose rear traction similar to grabbing the hand brake.

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fierostetz (Post 2976302)
this reminds me of a video my friend sent me of a naked chick skydiving

Do Share!!

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976412)
Ok I don't know MPH so I'm gonna do kph. So I'm on the highway, let's say doing 110, there is a goody goody two shoes citizen in front of me doing 100 on the dot. I'm behind him, have to slow down to his speed, then an opportunity to pass opens up, and I put it into 4th from 6th? How do I blip 2 gears worth of revs? It just seems mechanically unsympathetic to me. Either way it just feels like a decent jolt to the system.

Hopefully, since you have time, you'll plan ahead. While you're twiddling your thumbs behind the blocker, work your way down the gearbox to 4000 and drop back 50 meters or so. Then, when traffic opens up, accelerate and slingshot them. By the time you're even with their rear bumper, you should be turning 5000 or better and well on your way to 150 kph. :burnrubber:

edit. IMHO these cars are just not THAT slow.

PetrolioBenzina 09-11-2017 11:55 AM

I'm surprised at the number of people who are surprised by the need to pass.

Darth Khan 09-11-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2976436)
I'm surprised at the number of people who are surprised by the need to pass.

:thumbup:

Nothing surprises me anymore, i'm too old.

VTEC 09-11-2017 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2976412)
Ok I don't know MPH so I'm gonna do kph. So I'm on the highway, let's say doing 110, there is a goody goody two shoes citizen in front of me doing 100 on the dot. I'm behind him, have to slow down to his speed, then an opportunity to pass opens up, and I put it into 4th from 6th? How do I blip 2 gears worth of revs? It just seems mechanically unsympathetic to me. Either way it just feels like a decent jolt to the system.

If it's a tight gap you can go all the way down to 3rd gear at 100 kph. You just got to match rev it to avoid the jolt. If you're floor it in 3rd gear at 100 kph, you can get back up to the normal flow of traffic pretty quick (120ish). Makes it much easier to get around these slow asses

You can't be shy to hit the redline in these cars. There is no power below 4500 RPM. Keep it between 4500 and 7400 RPM when you need to make a quick pass. The FA20 loves to rev

extrashaky 09-11-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2976436)
I'm surprised at the number of people who are surprised by the need to pass.

After seeing this idiot's other threads, I don't think he can post anything dumb enough to surprise me any more.

86geek 09-11-2017 01:38 PM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:Boy, Oh, boy I sure missed this thread huh....LmfaO!

Tcoat 09-11-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2976475)
After seeing this idiot's other threads, I don't think he can post anything dumb enough to surprise me any more.

Will at least he is now down to early morning and late evening when school is out and his mom lets him on the computer. I assume he has to do his homework before he is allowed on. Speaking of which, I bet those essays are a blast to read.

HKz 09-11-2017 01:52 PM

plot twist, ludwig was actually paid off by the mods to instigate as many people as possible :bow:

the forum has been a little slow lately :(

Jordanwolf 09-11-2017 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2976522)
plot twist, ludwig was actually paid off by the mods to instigate as many people as possible :bow:

the forum has been a little slow lately :(

I don't come to forums on the weekend :D, too busy driving!

Beachin86 09-11-2017 02:45 PM

This thread needs more E-Torx bolts. Seriously, replace each of your bolts with these for +5hp each and fly past everyone else on the highway.

Tcoat 09-11-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beachin86 (Post 2976556)
This thread needs more E-Torx bolts. Seriously, replace each of your bolts with these for +5hp each and fly past everyone else on the highway.

Only if you can get them for 33% of the dealer cost!

extrashaky 09-11-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2976511)
Speaking of which, I bet those essays are a blast to read.

"Hitler, Misunderstood Genius" by Ludwig von Miles

Opening paragraph:

Quote:

Hitler was a misunderstood genius who only wanted the best for his people. All you people who believe otherwise are stupid.

paulca 09-11-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2976435)
Hopefully, since you have time, you'll plan ahead. While you're twiddling your thumbs behind the blocker, work your way down the gearbox to 4000 and drop back 50 meters or so. Then, when traffic opens up, accelerate and slingshot them. By the time you're even with their rear bumper, you should be turning 5000 or better and well on your way to 150 kph. :burnrubber:

Why not just move out and accelerate?

yelsew 09-11-2017 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beachin86 (Post 2976556)
This thread needs more E-Torx bolts. Seriously, replace each of your bolts with these for +5hp each and fly past everyone else on the highway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2976570)
Only if you can get them for 33% of the dealer cost!

Careful! That would definitely be abuse, because passing people on the highway would be way harder on your car than tracking.


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