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mav1178 09-11-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2976696)
What state (of tune) is your car in? From what I could gather, it's stock mas o menos.

Tune with Tomei UEL, Fujitsubo front pipe, Blitz VSR catback, Blitz intake.

Spuds 09-11-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2976686)
Aah but I was not the slowest driver.

Two BMWs with twice my HP drove slower than me, I'm guessing they were newbies to COTA or just playing it outrageously safe.

The BMWs were probably slow because of new drivers not hitting their shift points. Shifting properly in a BMW has a steep learning curve, as unlike other cars the stick is located in the middle of the drivers seat.

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2976731)
Tune with Tomei UEL, Fujitsubo front pipe, Blitz VSR catback, Blitz intake.

Hmmm. What else runs in your class/group? Other than the Mini.

mav1178 09-11-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2976736)
Hmmm. What else runs in your class/group? Other than the Mini.

Here's the list of overall cars that ran the event.

http://speedventures.com/results/Def...id=-1999999043

If I wasn't forced to run the all-season tires I drove to/from Austin on, I probably would've been around 2:50 or so on timing. Instead, stupid me mounted a tire wrong, tore it up after it lost pressure, and couldn't get below 3:00 all day.

LudwigMiles 09-11-2017 08:52 PM

That's right, when people say "the 86 can't even pass cars on the highway", what they really mean is that they are unable to pass GT3 and Z06's that are at WOT.
Or, just maybe, if you can't pass a cruising car that is doing the same speed as your car on the highway, you don't know how to drive a stick.

Ultramaroon 09-11-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2976651)
I am getting tired of combative and pompous posts probably. There has been too many lately.

Totally get that. :cheers:

Actually, I've come back to re-read and I feel a little torn. I also play in the passing/oncoming lane in order to stay accustomed to being there. I also practice aborting a pass. I'm repeating stories but when I was 13 I watched a woman hit a motorcyclist head on in a panic move. She pulled out from between two semis to pass. When she realized her error, instead of backing off, she dove for the shoulder on our side; the same place the motorcyclist went. Watched the whole thing go down while my dad calmly slowed to avoid being part of the mess.

I may be overly sensitive to it but I think passing is an under-appreciated skill.

carsebuco 09-11-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2976772)
Totally get that. :cheers:


I may be overly sensitive to it but I think passing is an under-appreciated skill.

The proper, safe way to pass is to make sure you are doing 1 mph above the driver on the right, that way you can keep your eye on them and watch out for any sudden move. By doing that, you also prevent cars behind you from trying to push you off the side. Maintain control of the speed and eventually you will make a safe pass and you'll be able to go home to your kids.

mav1178 09-11-2017 10:50 PM

How to pass:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u13cDmKpo-4"]Just ordinary day of dashcam in Russia - YouTube[/ame]

Ultramaroon 09-11-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carsebuco (Post 2976793)
The proper, safe way to pass is to make sure you are doing 1 mph above the driver on the right, that way you can keep your eye on them and watch out for any sudden move. By doing that, you also prevent cars behind you from trying to push you off the side. Maintain control of the speed and eventually you will make a safe pass and you'll be able to go home to your kids.

We're not talking about 3 lanes of traffic. Even then, a casual walking pace is 2 mph. Where did you learn this?

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2976738)
Here's the list of overall cars that ran the event.

http://speedventures.com/results/Def...id=-1999999043

If I wasn't forced to run the all-season tires I drove to/from Austin on, I probably would've been around 2:50 or so on timing. Instead, stupid me mounted a tire wrong, tore it up after it lost pressure, and couldn't get below 3:00 all day.

There seem to be a fair number of pretty quick cars stuck in the mid 2:50s.

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2976798)
We're not talking about 3 lanes of traffic. Even then, a casual walking pace is 2 mph. Where did you learn this?

Sarcasm?? I apologize if you're just playing along.

Ultramaroon 09-11-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2976802)
Sarcasm?? I apologize if you're just playing along.

Oh, jeez. I have to get my meter calibrated. :bonk: Thanks!

Ok, @carsebuco, you win this round. :paddle::D

Capt Spaulding 09-11-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2976772)
Totally get that. :cheers:

Actually, I've come back to re-read and I feel a little torn. I also play in the passing/oncoming lane in order to stay accustomed to being there. I also practice aborting a pass. I'm repeating stories but when I was 13 I watched a woman hit a motorcyclist head on in a panic move. She pulled out from between two semis to pass. When she realized her error, instead of backing off, she dove for the shoulder on our side; the same place the motorcyclist went. Watched the whole thing go down while my dad calmly slowed to avoid being part of the mess.

I may be overly sensitive to it but I think passing is an under-appreciated skill.

I could not agree more with your last sentence. I confess I'm a little perplexed at the idea of being afraid of the oncoming/passing lane. I understand full well the dangers of fucking it up, but properly executed it shouldn't be that traumatic. I'm not afraid of being there, but it seems to me that several things can happen in that lane, the vast majority of which are bad. So why spend any more time there than you have to?

Between 2 semis is a really uncomfortable place to be. That said, these guys cannot afford to get tangled up with a car. If you need to get around slow down enough to force the guy behind to give you some room. Stick your nose out and take a peek. If it's not clear then move back over and wait for an opportunity. Use geography. Uphills will slow these guys down. Use the chance to carve out some maneuvering room. See if you can make the pass after the crest. A little patience and a bit of planning will help immensely.

i'm sorry you had to witness the MC collision. I can certainly understand the trauma witnessing a catastrophe like that can cause. When I was about 20 I was on my way home late one night after playing tennis with a friend and watched in my rearview mirror as a guy in a pick up took a corner at a speed neither he nor the truck could pull off. He slid into a curb, rolled the truck, was ejected and run over by the truck. We made a quick U-turn and went back to render aid. The driver was conscious when ems picked him up, he died on the way to the hospital. It's not the stuff of nightmares, but I'll never forget his name.

I sure as hell don't have all, or even most, of the answers. I'm convinced, however that far too many people are behind the wheels of cars who should not be. And a big problem with most of them is they are not drivers - they are simply operators. They don't take their responsibility seriously. And, people die.

humfrz 09-11-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2976794)
How to pass:

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That dog bit at the last was priceless ......:lol:


humfrz


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