Yes, that is the crux of this thread. Mashing the pedal in an AT car will downshift 2 maybe 3 gears. People who don't know how to drive stick will mash the pedal and stay in 5th or 6th then complain you can't pass.

Exactly.

No, it just takes downshifting.
Notice how no Civic owner ever complains about passing on the highway.
Meanwhile, the 86 has 50 more HP than a typical econobox.

You clearly have an AT car.
The whole point here is that pressing the go pedal is not enough.
This discussion is about MT cars.
But many people do not know how to downshift several gears for a pass.

Residents in RSF are generally pretty cool though, they're mostly "old money" so there's a bit less bragging and treating people like crap. Right after highschool I used to do a lot of home network consulting work out there - 100 dollar tips were a huge deal right out of highschool.

Man, those were the days lol.

It's really is a problem of **** size and swag guys....

You clearly were inbred. Any common sense would tell you the list of vehicles I own is directly next to my name... which are both MT, just like every vehicle I owned before.. and the FRS I owned before it... which I mentioned in my previous post... that you quoted and replied to.

This discussion isn't even a discussion. It's redundant rambling.

Much like you don't know what "abuse" of a vehicle is.. but sure.

In that case, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Pressing the pedal that makes the car go does not make you pass.
This is the entire point of this debate.
This is why whole reason people complain in the first place.
You need to downshift and put the tach into 5k+ to pass.

You're right. You gotta press the brake. My bad.


By pressing the gas. The end.

Is my 17 86 broken? It can pass cars without downshifting sometimes, even in sixth.

When i said "same", I meant they are in the same tier. I mentioned that a few posts back.
And the definition of passing power is 50-70 or 60 to 80 mph. ;)
Those times that were provided proves there is minute differences. 4.8 seconds to 5.6 seconds delta does nothing for you. Both my statements are true. ;)
If you think I'm BSing, go out and evaluate it yourself. ;)
The people arguing and saying that this has better passing power probably never pay attention or come across those that try to challenge you. ;)

And it's basic physics. The car has no torque. If the car had a decent torque curve, with the initial heavy throttle, you would feel a heavy tug and are able to cover more ground in a shorter distance and time span. That's what acceleration is. Hence why 50-70 and 60-80 is important. ;)
I already explained drive ratios between cars. The FRS has a better 60-100 time because eco cars literally go into overdrive around 80mph in general. The frs still has the powerband and gearing advantage; that why you see a 5 second difference between them. ;)
That's why I keep on saying you will reach over 100 mph before you can cut them safely. ;)

My boosted frs has a better power weight than my evo by a lot, yet the evo can sling shot itself past any car with ease since it has a lot of available torque down low.

The stock frs has the passing power of an eco box.

It will take you 20 seconds to pass like that.
Learn to downshift, you clueless dumbass.

Don't forget the JATO boosters, noob.

So what? Is there a time limit for a pass? If I get really bored, I might go time how long it takes to pass in 6, 5 and 4. Where's your video?

'Bout time for this insult to stick, mods.

People are expressing their opinion based on experience. The only one lacking a clue in your threads is you.

Yep, I think we are about passed out ...... :rolleyes:


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Yet my 86 has no problem whatsoever passing cars on the highway or back roads, assuming I do my job. We have spent pages discussing the shortfalls of the car, perhaps it's time to consider the driver.