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ZZT86 09-12-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2977099)
Dealership experience can make a shit car tolerable and a great car miserable and take a mediocre car and make it great or awful, as evidenced with many threads posted here about people selling their car over minor problems that their dealer refuses to address.

Fair comment, personally I judge a cars quality by the number of times I have to take it back because something don't work/look right or has failed altogether. A good & willing dealer/manufacturer does make it more bearable though. My gen7 celica was brilliant cos it rarely had an issue throughout it's long life, my 86 has issues now with a shitty gearbox when cold & a noisy HPFP but since it's considered "a characteristic of the car" the dealer can't or will not fix. That's when forums like these are a big help as I go to work helping myself to improve the ownership experience. There are other quality issues too but hey I still love it & I ain't selling it to anyone ;)

Back to OP - I'm keen to hear of the gritty little details of engine failure.

strat61caster 09-12-2017 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZZT86 (Post 2977475)
Fair comment, personally I judge a cars quality by the number of times I have to take it back because something don't work/look right or has failed altogether. A good & willing dealer/manufacturer does make it more bearable though. My gen7 celica was brilliant cos it rarely had an issue throughout it's long life, my 86 has issues now with a shitty gearbox when cold & a noisy HPFP but since it's considered "a characteristic of the car" the dealer can't or will not fix. That's when forums like these are a big help as I go to work helping myself to improve the ownership experience. There are other quality issues too but hey I still love it & I ain't selling it to anyone ;)

Back to OP - I'm keen to hear of the gritty little details of engine failure.

That's the difference between someone who is reliant on others to diagnose and maintain their vehicle and someone who is capable and willing of doing it themselves. >90% of people are not willing to maintain or understand their own vehicle so dealership or mechanic relationship becomes extremely important when purchasing the object that will get you back and forth to work.

By the way your gripes for this car sound like absolutely nothing is wrong. Welcome to 86 ownership.
:cheers:

Capt Spaulding 09-12-2017 10:39 PM

They're not bugs, they're features.

paulca 09-14-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2975450)
It's always been 7.5k miles for the Toyota.
It was Subaru that changed to 6k so they could have the same maintenance interval across their lineup.

Source:
https://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/docu...FRS_WMG_lr.pdf

https://www.toyota.com/owners/resour...tVehicle=false

You guys had me going there. It's 1 year or 10k miles in the UK.

I wonder why you guys get a shorter schedule? Fuel quality? Road condition? Climate? Profit? Marketability?

guybo 09-14-2017 02:39 PM

It might be climate- much of the US gets over 100 F in the summer. It might also be the stricter environmental regs in the UK. Part of the impetus to push out the OCI is so that there's less used motor oil in the waste stream- the stuff is a toxic waste.

demasrv 09-21-2017 11:55 AM

I have an early '13 that spun a rod bearing around ~53k miles. I'm at 60k now, a bit terrified it'll happen again but they covered a new block under warranty.

Were you unable to prove your service records? I had a hard time with that but eventually cobbled enough together where the regional Subaru guy approved the work.

ls1ac 09-21-2017 12:55 PM

Unusually a spun bearing is caused buy lack of oil in a engine with 20k on the clock, that said with only one qt. left wouldn't a low pressure light have come on?


On a different note. I did have a high performance engine spin a bearing just last month but I am sure that 500 hp. in a 3 lt. track car had nothing to do with its demise. Wait, can I go after ford because they made the block? What was interesting was it happened at the shop when the engine was cold the next week. It went tic tic tic clank at idle.

Shibby 09-21-2017 03:20 PM

Looks like I'm in a similar boat. Pulled over immediately and checked the oil which was still perfect since I had just changed it 150 miles previous.

https://youtu.be/0yodUYrdC1M

mav1178 09-21-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shibby (Post 2981723)
Looks like I'm in a similar boat. Pulled over immediately and checked the oil which was still perfect since I had just changed it 150 miles previous.

https://youtu.be/0yodUYrdC1M

Similar outcome but not similar situation. You're not missing 5 quarts of oil...

Capt Spaulding 09-21-2017 05:40 PM

The low oil level will play havoc with the oil temps. The oil will get severely hot, the viscosity drop to 0 and stuff starts to seize up even if the light stays off. Just because it has SOME oil in it isn't good enough.

Lights are really good at telling you you just binned an engine.

Shibby 09-22-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2981780)
The low oil level will play havoc with the oil temps. The oil will get severely hot, the viscosity drop to 0 and stuff starts to seize up even if the light stays off. Just because it has SOME oil in it isn't good enough.

Lights are really good at telling you you just binned an engine.

My lights arent even on so it's not even good at telling you that..

Pointmutation 09-22-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fx1mark (Post 2976881)
My boss was a loyal Subaru owner ... she got rid of the car and now drives a vw golf gti.

As a long time VW owner I have to laugh at that comment. Welcome to the world of CELs and repairs. Lol. The amount of repairs I've had to do over the years on my B5.5 Passat would easily pay for a new engine. I had so many loaners at one point that the car rental place remembered my name when I walked in the door. When you don't even flinch at a $1500 repair bill, and a $1k bill makes you happy because it's so cheap (for a vw repair), something's wrong. Haha. But they're great when they're actually running well. I do love em though.
:burnrubber:

Shibby 01-27-2018 09:33 PM

Sorry to necro this thread but I finally got my car into the dealership and they agreed to replace the short block. Too much sealant blocking oil passage for cylinder 4 so clearly not my fault. Didn't even have to call SOA or argue, all I did was provide proof of oil changes every 3300 miles and showed them my milky way galaxy that came out of the oil filter. Really happy with Subaru. https://i.imgur.com/GpWkH4G.jpg

mazeroni 01-27-2018 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shibby (Post 3034917)
Sorry to necro this thread but I finally got my car into the dealership and they agreed to replace the short block. Too much sealant blocking oil passage for cylinder 4 so clearly not my fault. Didn't even have to call SOA or argue, all I did was provide proof of oil changes every 3300 miles and showed them my milky way galaxy that came out of the oil filter. Really happy with Subaru.

How many miles on the car?


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