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humfrz 10-04-2017 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas (Post 2987294)
No it's not my 1st manual car. The new foreman concluded that it wasn't a fault transmission but engine. Even though they have the engine pulled out for inspection but they still couldn't find out what the problem is:mad0259: They just hope the new engine will fix it.
Maybe if they hook an AT to the new engine .......that would solve all your problems ....... :iono:


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HKz 10-04-2017 01:30 PM
I'm still quite confused where the actual problems are on OP's car? I've still yet to read anything regarding mechanical failure or even hindrance.

strat61caster 10-04-2017 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2987491)
I'm still quite confused where the actual problems are on OP's car? I've still yet to read anything regarding mechanical failure or even hindrance.
It makes a 'click' on acceleration as described in post #11

could be an axle nut or catastrophic engine failure, guess the dealership decided to replace the engine

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MyGT86Yas 10-05-2017 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2987491)
I'm still quite confused where the actual problems are on OP's car? I've still yet to read anything regarding mechanical failure or even hindrance.
You can go back to see #1 post. I updated it and put the whole story there.

HKz 10-05-2017 03:48 PM
still confused how your tranny issues had anything to do with the engine. just difficult to see it being an issue with a facelifted 86 and not user error. too bad you don't have a video showing of you shifting "normally" and showing the stick popping out.

strat61caster 10-05-2017 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2988267)
still confused how your tranny issues had anything to do with the engine.
Sounds like it had nothing to do with it at all. Engine replacement is for other noises.

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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas (Post 2987889)
You can go back to see #1 post. I updated it and put the whole story there.
Thanks for the clarification and documenting this awful process. Your problems are odd, a few are normal operation like #2, #6, & #7 (#7 patiently explained by Ultramaroon twice) but popping out of gear and abnormal noises (within reason) are certainly not.

Does the car have a short shifter in it? The TRD short shifter is known to be problematic and improper install can screw up shifting noticeably.

You'll have to be patient with the skepticism, I've never seen anyone claim to have an 86 that's popped out of gear and I've beat the hell out of mine without repercussion as have many others. Abnormal noises come and go, it's hard to tell what's going on based on text description alone.

Get that foreman and tech a case of beer when your car is healthy again, they're going the extra mile to get your car fixed even if we're all skeptical of what the hell is going on with your car.

MyGT86Yas 10-05-2017 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKz (Post 2988267)
still confused how your tranny issues had anything to do with the engine. just difficult to see it being an issue with a facelifted 86 and not user error. too bad you don't have a video showing of you shifting "normally" and showing the stick popping out.
It could be two separate problems, the clicking noise and the transmission issue. I'm pretty positive that the transmission problems (shifter pop out, can't shift into gear when in speed) were caused by the spring that was found loose in the 1st repair. My guess was when they replaced the transmission in the 2nd repair the spring got messed up again, or it just has bad design:iono:

MyGT86Yas 10-05-2017 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2988382)
Sounds like it had nothing to do with it at all. Engine replacement is for other noises.



Thanks for the clarification and documenting this awful process. Your problems are odd, a few are normal operation like #2, #6, & #7 (#7 patiently explained by Ultramaroon twice) but popping out of gear and abnormal noises (within reason) are certainly not.

Does the car have a short shifter in it? The TRD short shifter is known to be problematic and improper install can screw up shifting noticeably.

You'll have to be patient with the skepticism, I've never seen anyone claim to have an 86 that's popped out of gear and I've beat the hell out of mine without repercussion as have many others. Abnormal noises come and go, it's hard to tell what's going on based on text description alone.

Get that foreman and tech a case of beer when your car is healthy again, they're going the extra mile to get your car fixed even if we're all skeptical of what the hell is going on with your car.
No, it doesn't have a short shifter. The whole powertrain and transmission system is stock.
This foreman in Orange is super nice and helpful. He did take an extra mile to help me on this issue. He spent half an hour test driving with me to hear the noises that I was complaining about:bow:

Ultramaroon 10-06-2017 03:44 PM
Much better rundown in your update. If we're talking about the retaining clips for the throwout bearing, The loose spring theory makes sense. Drawing a mental line between cause and effect, I can see where a loose one could allow the fork to knock back and cause some sponginess. Then it becomes a simple case of dragging clutch.

I just hope you get it all worked out. You have some great support in that dealership you're with. I agree with Strat that a case or two of beer is in order after the dust settles.

MyGT86Yas 10-15-2017 06:15 PM
I talked to the foreman last week and the latest information I got was:
The head casing was inspected and pressure tested and will be re-used in the new engine.
Other than that part, all other parts are new (block and the upper half) and the whole engine is assembled at the dealership.
I was told that they should have the car ready and thoroughly inspected by tomorrow, will let you guys know if that actually fix the problem.

RJasonKlein 10-16-2017 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MyGT86Yas (Post 2992245)
I talked to the foreman last week and the latest information I got was:
The head casing was inspected and pressure tested and will be re-used in the new engine.
Other than that part, all other parts are new (block and the upper half) and the whole engine is assembled at the dealership.
I was told that they should have the car ready and thoroughly inspected by tomorrow, will let you guys know if that actually fix the problem.
Good luck and please let us know how things go. Out of curiosity, what is your age?

MyGT86Yas 10-17-2017 01:08 PM
They broke the injector seals when assembling the engine. If the injectors are not in back order I should have the car back tonight...should...


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MyGT86Yas 10-17-2017 01:16 PM
Not sure if this is something I should worry/complain about, I can clearly see the carbon build-up in the head casing (they told me they gonna reuse it) but I was told it was supposed to be a brand new engine...
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MyGT86Yas 10-17-2017 11:17 PM
And Toyota decided to lemon my car


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