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HSUBLU 08-25-2017 09:21 PM

Waiting for the first person to take the HU out of the 2018 to replace with aftermarket so I can pick it up...

trippinbillies40 08-25-2017 11:06 PM

I'm gonna have to make some calls next week. The 7" screen means it's a gen2 device, and I am really, really surprised the press release says it'll have car play.

mav1178 08-26-2017 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2968022)
What, exactly, is a "flexible stiffener?"

https://www.sti.jp/parts/subarubrz_z.../ST20118AS000/


Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzudien (Post 2968366)
I figured it out, the new HU will have a turbo button to increase computer speed. That is the new turbo the car is getting

So basically they are putting the 486 DX2 Turbo system onto the new head units! YES!

NeverInTime 08-26-2017 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2968534)
So basically they are putting the 486 DX2 Turbo system onto the new head units! YES!

http://www.sandipointe.com/im/sungla...nglasses-0.jpg

Make sure your turbo safety glasses are on before pressing the button :thumbup:

tehShirt 08-26-2017 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S0crates (Post 2967978)
Changes for All Models:
  • Welcome lighting
  • One-touch directional signals for lane changing

I'm guessing this will be a relay like the Tap-Turn modules currently available.

sato 08-26-2017 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzudien (Post 2968366)
I figured it out, the new HU will have a turbo button to increase computer speed. That is the new turbo the car is getting

I'd kill for a turbo...button, to speed up my HU.

But it's nice that some models are getting Pilot Sports.

Willie Swoopes 08-26-2017 05:41 PM

Kin ah hev ah nu hed u-knit pleez

davesrave 08-27-2017 09:02 PM

Pure sports car performance with 205 hp, light weight, and ultra low center of gravity

So, does this mean that the AT gets the newer engine and lower rear differential ratio?

Side 08-27-2017 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesrave (Post 2969147)
Pure sports car performance with 205 hp, light weight, and ultra low center of gravity

So, does this mean that the AT gets the newer engine and lower rear differential ratio?

Not according to either of these:

http://media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do?id=1194&mid=136

http://media.subaru.com/download.do?id=1193

"Output remains 200 hp and 151 lb-ft with automatic transmission."

davesrave 08-29-2017 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Side (Post 2969151)
Not according to either of these:

http://media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do?id=1194&mid=136

http://media.subaru.com/download.do?id=1193

"Output remains 200 hp and 151 lb-ft with automatic transmission."

Interesting. I wonder why there is no further development for the AT. Low sales I would guess.

zigzagz94 08-30-2017 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~ (Post 2968320)
the wipers+ lights on is rather dumb but it can save a fine in the USA.

This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves....

In general I'm against government mandates, but this is something I would support on all vehicles.

You would be amazed at how many people drive around without lights in torrential down pours here in the PAC NW. Then they wonder why someone hits them.

Here's a clue genius, if you have to turn on your wipers then turn on your lights so the rest of us can see your dumb@ss. (and it's actually the law in some states)

Now I know everyone on here is super attentive behind the wheel and are aware of all the other cars around them but the other 99% of society is already driving distracted. You add in low visibility from precipitation and its a recipe for disaster. Having the lights auto on with the wipers won't solve the problem but certainly won't hurt.

jbsali 08-30-2017 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 2970321)
This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves....

In general I'm against government mandates, but this is something I would support on all vehicles.

You would be amazed at how many people drive around without lights in torrential down pours here in the PAC NW. Then they wonder why someone hits them.

Here's a clue genius, if you have to turn on your wipers then turn on your lights so the rest of us can see your dumb@ss. (and it's actually the law in some states)

Now I know everyone on here is super attentive behind the wheel and are aware of all the other cars around them but the other 99% of society is already driving distracted. You add in low visibility from precipitation and its a recipe for disaster. Having the lights auto on with the wipers won't solve the problem but certainly won't hurt.


I honestly don't see a huge need for this feature. Yes, its more safe but where I'm from it rain 8 months of the year and it would annoy the hell out of me.. I would be ok with just a rear fog flight and DTRLs turning on.. just my $0.02 though..

Tcoat 08-30-2017 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 2970321)
This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves....

In general I'm against government mandates, but this is something I would support on all vehicles.

You would be amazed at how many people drive around without lights in torrential down pours here in the PAC NW. Then they wonder why someone hits them.

Here's a clue genius, if you have to turn on your wipers then turn on your lights so the rest of us can see your dumb@ss. (and it's actually the law in some states)

Now I know everyone on here is super attentive behind the wheel and are aware of all the other cars around them but the other 99% of society is already driving distracted. You add in low visibility from precipitation and its a recipe for disaster. Having the lights auto on with the wipers won't solve the problem but certainly won't hurt.

This ^ Not even half the cars turn their lights on in the rain. Especially bad with white, silver or black cars that are almost invisible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsali (Post 2970337)
I honestly don't see a huge need for this feature. Yes, its more safe but where I'm from it rain 8 months of the year and it would annoy the hell out of me.. I would be ok with just a rear fog flight and DTRLs turning on.. just my $0.02 though..

How would lights coming on annoy you? You probably wouldn't even notice. The DRLS should be on all the time now anyway. These cars are already low visibility so I would think everybody would want to be seen better.

Firecruiser 08-30-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 2970321)
This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves....

In general I'm against government mandates, but this is something I would support on all vehicles.

You would be amazed at how many people drive around without lights in torrential down pours here in the PAC NW. Then they wonder why someone hits them.

Here's a clue genius, if you have to turn on your wipers then turn on your lights so the rest of us can see your dumb@ss. (and it's actually the law in some states)

Now I know everyone on here is super attentive behind the wheel and are aware of all the other cars around them but the other 99% of society is already driving distracted. You add in low visibility from precipitation and its a recipe for disaster. Having the lights auto on with the wipers won't solve the problem but certainly won't hurt.


It took me a while to get used to not having this feature when i got my brz. It was standard in a vehicle from 2000. Not sure why automatic headlights and headlights on with wipers aren't standard features of any new car. The technology has been around forever so it can't be that expansive of an add on.

gtengr 08-30-2017 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by davesrave (Post 2970248)
Interesting. I wonder why there is no further development for the AT. Low sales I would guess.

The AT models actually get most of the engine features that are on the '17 6MT. There's a product spec pdf that covers each new addition in depth, and on pg 75 it covers what parts went to all models or just the 6MT's. The AT's get pretty much everything but the coated/treated? pistons and the intake tract and manifold. The AT's get the more rigid block, optimized rocker arms, smoother cam journals, etc.

Clutch 08-30-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtengr (Post 2970442)
The AT models actually get most of the engine features that are on the '17 6MT. There's a product spec pdf that covers each new addition in depth, and on pg 75 it covers what parts went to all models or just the 6MT's. The AT's get pretty much everything but the coated/treated? pistons and the intake tract and manifold. The AT's get the more rigid block, optimized rocker arms, smoother cam journals, etc.

Oh, interesting. Do you have a link to the doc?

gtengr 08-30-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch (Post 2970511)
Oh, interesting. Do you have a link to the doc?

I don't. It's saved on my pc. On my phone right now but it's 120 pages and titled something like 2016 Product Specifications.

Tcoat 08-30-2017 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch (Post 2970511)
Oh, interesting. Do you have a link to the doc?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...3&d=1467284340

jbsali 09-05-2017 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2970382)
This ^ Not even half the cars turn their lights on in the rain. Especially bad with white, silver or black cars that are almost invisible.


How would lights coming on annoy you? You probably wouldn't even notice. The DRLS should be on all the time now anyway. These cars are already low visibility so I would think everybody would want to be seen better.

mainly high trucks and SUV's. A lot of vehicles here are running HID in non-projector headlights too. My biggest pet peeve is the instrument cluster dimming making it less visible though (during the day). Yeah you can adjust it, but you'll just be constantly adjusting it manually. The fact that DRLS are on should be more than enough. again, just my 0.02. I could see this feature being good for places that get monsoons or very heavy rain storms. Also in BC, if you're running Fogs during the day time, you can technically get a ticket. It's rare but I've personally been ticketed for it...

usthei 09-07-2017 10:25 PM

It will great if it is possible to get the new SUBARU STARLINK and install it on my 2017 BRZ. I really want Apply CarPlay.

Harjotdhanota 09-07-2017 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usthei (Post 2974792)
It will great if it is possible to get the new SUBARU STARLINK and install it on my 2017 BRZ. I really want Apply CarPlay.

I'm also hoping this is possible. By the way, which website do I get headunit updates from anyways?

Ganthrithor 09-13-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 2970321)
This is actually one of my biggest pet peeves....

In general I'm against government mandates, but this is something I would support on all vehicles.

You would be amazed at how many people drive around without lights in torrential down pours here in the PAC NW. Then they wonder why someone hits them.

Here's a clue genius, if you have to turn on your wipers then turn on your lights so the rest of us can see your dumb@ss. (and it's actually the law in some states)

Now I know everyone on here is super attentive behind the wheel and are aware of all the other cars around them but the other 99% of society is already driving distracted. You add in low visibility from precipitation and its a recipe for disaster. Having the lights auto on with the wipers won't solve the problem but certainly won't hurt.

Dude here in Socal I can't drive anywhere at night without seeing at least two people driving in the dark with no lights on. DRLs were the stupidest fucking idea: they're on all the time and throw enough light at the front end that people don't notice their lights are off. Of course, since the position lights on the other ends of the car don't come on, they're fucking invisible from behind.

IMO with how stupid people have become, every light on the car except the headlights should run whenever the car's turned on.

TachyonBomb 09-13-2017 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganthrithor (Post 2978137)
Dude here in Socal I can't drive anywhere at night without seeing at least two people driving in the dark with no lights on. DRLs were the stupidest fucking idea: they're on all the time and throw enough light at the front end that people don't notice their lights are off. Of course, since the position lights on the other ends of the car don't come on, they're fucking invisible from behind.

IMO with how stupid people have become, every light on the car except the headlights should run whenever the car's turned on.

LOL aint that the truth about california! I swear you can always count on at least 2 cars per night on your drive home having some form of busted headlight or head lights. I cant even put a number to how many times I've been driving at night and thinking oh shit there is a bike cop speeding at me from behind only find out it is some old 90's impala or geo prizm with a busted out head light.

Even with DRL no pedestrians in San Francisco car or notice any more than they would if your car didn't have DRL. I swear people are wanting to get ran over in NorCal. :bonk:

PhyrraM 09-14-2017 12:40 AM

It's not always the DRLs. It's the instrument clusters that always light up. Most people used to turn the lights on just to see the speedo when it got dark - as most instrument clusters had no illumination at all unless the parking/head lights were on, but now you can always see it on most cars.

Ganthrithor 09-14-2017 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhyrraM (Post 2978240)
It's not always the DRLs. It's the instrument clusters that always light up. Most people used to turn the lights on just to see the speedo when it got dark - as most instrument clusters had no illumination at all unless the parking/head lights were on, but now you can always see it on most cars.

That's how it works in helicopters: to get panel lights, you need to turn on the nav lights.

x1UP 11-23-2017 11:54 AM

When are we able to place pre-orders for the Subaru tS? I've been looking all over, but no word on that yet...

Veloist 11-23-2017 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x1UP (Post 3008800)
When are we able to place pre-orders for the Subaru tS? I've been looking all over, but no word on that yet...

Pre-orders for BRZ tS most likely won’t exist. I wish it was just like Japan where people can choose their color and it would go toward the 500-unit count but because of the heavily-relied on retailer system, Subaru will likely distribute the cars based on BRZ sales history of specific retailers.

Some dealers may choose the color of their unit but most likely a retailer will end up with a randomly allocated tS.

This means if you are looking for a specific color, then you may have to look outside your nearest Subaru retailer.

Once you locate one, you can reserve it under the dealership’s reservation policy.

When the tS’s are on the way from Japan I can look up which dealers are getting which colors and vice versa. I’ll be here to help!

davidvanchu 11-23-2017 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3009014)
Pre-orders for BRZ tS most likely won’t exist. I wish it was just like Japan where people can choose their color and it would go toward the 500-unit count but because of the heavily-relied on retailer system, Subaru will likely distribute the cars based on BRZ sales history of specific retailers.

Some dealers may choose the color of their unit but most likely a retailer will end up with a randomly allocated tS.

This means if you are looking for a specific color, then you may have to look outside your nearest Subaru retailer.

Once you locate one, you can reserve it under the dealership’s reservation policy.

When the tS’s are on the way from Japan I can look up which dealers are getting which colors and vice versa. I’ll be here to help!

This makes me incredibly sad because I live in Maine where none of the dealers have sold many BRZs :(

Side 11-24-2017 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3009014)
When the tS’s are on the way from Japan I can look up which dealers are getting which colors and vice versa. I’ll be here to help!

I would very much appreciate this when they are!

Vides990 11-24-2017 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3009014)
Pre-orders for BRZ tS most likely won’t exist. I wish it was just like Japan where people can choose their color and it would go toward the 500-unit count but because of the heavily-relied on retailer system, Subaru will likely distribute the cars based on BRZ sales history of specific retailers.

Some dealers may choose the color of their unit but most likely a retailer will end up with a randomly allocated tS.

This means if you are looking for a specific color, then you may have to look outside your nearest Subaru retailer.

Once you locate one, you can reserve it under the dealership’s reservation policy.

When the tS’s are on the way from Japan I can look up which dealers are getting which colors and vice versa. I’ll be here to help!

Definitely depends on the dealer, mine has already taken a deposit (back in August)...

Veloist 11-24-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vides990 (Post 3009041)
Definitely depends on the dealer, mine has already taken a deposit (back in August)...

Any dealer can take a deposit, but if you don’t have a VON (vehicle order number) there’s no proof that dealer is getting the car you requested.

Vides990 11-24-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3009093)
Any dealer can take a deposit, but if you don’t have a VON (vehicle order number) there’s no proof that dealer is getting the car you requested.

Don't disagree but they told me I should expect that sooner than later and the car in April ~2 weeks ago. They've never not delivered what they have said before.

trippinbillies40 11-24-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vides990 (Post 3009145)
Don't disagree but they told me I should expect that sooner than later and the car in April ~2 weeks ago. They've never not delivered what they have said before.

I believe they're going to hit retailers before April. That's the last I heard, but who knows.

Veloist 11-24-2017 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vides990 (Post 3009145)
Don't disagree but they told me I should expect that sooner than later and the car in April ~2 weeks ago. They've never not delivered what they have said before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 3009153)
I believe they're going to hit retailers before April. That's the last I heard, but who knows.

Subaru Press says 1st Quarter of 2018 so Jan. 1 - Mar 31. That's a huge range though haha. I'd say the whole month of January is out of question since orders aren't open and it's already the end of the month.

trippinbillies40 11-24-2017 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3009247)
Subaru Press says 1st Quarter of 2018 so Jan. 1 - Mar 31. That's a huge range though haha. I'd say the whole month of January is out of question since orders aren't open and it's already the end of the month.

I know the date they're supposed to hit but I'm having doubts at this point.

TommyW 11-24-2017 08:55 PM

Well just the fact that there's a tire upgrade is good news. Maybe they'll use that model in these Shoot Outs on the reviews between the BRZ and Miata

Veloist 11-24-2017 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 3009250)
I know the date they're supposed to hit but I'm having doubts at this point.

No kidding...just to put it into perspective for the others, the first finished Series.Yellows have Production dates of 11/22-11/24 and didn't hit retailers until the first week of February, or last few days of January if lucky.

That's about a 70-day turnaround and that's after the car is built...

Veloist 11-24-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3009267)
Well just the fact that there's a tire upgrade is good news. Maybe they'll use that model in these Shoot Outs on the reviews between the BRZ and Miata

Honestly I believe this alone serves as a huge reason behind Subaru bringing the BRZ tS here.

Edit: Also in comparison with other cars as Subaru wants the BRZ to have a benchmark model that looks good in Magazine and Video Reviews.

yurikaze 11-28-2017 03:11 PM

I just got off the phone with one of my local dealers, and they expect to get in 3 BRZ tS (compared to the 5 series yellow they had this year.)

According to them, the tS has the option of orders counting towards the total allocation, so customers can specify which color they want. They say they'll be calling sometime later this month so I can put in my deposit, and hopefully I can confirm at that time whether or not the tS is orderable or if it's just a set number of each color. (Although the guys who work at dealerships on here will probably know first.)

yurikaze 11-28-2017 03:30 PM

BRZ tS is up on Subaru's site:
https://www.subaru.com/2018-brz-ts.h...E&gclsrc=aw.ds


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