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Tamukas 08-07-2017 09:36 AM

Vogtland springs issue
 
Hello everyone!

Yesterday I installed lowering springs from vogtland. They claimed that their springs will lower the car 2.5cm (1'). I got the promised drop in the rear, but for some reason the front of the car stayed almost exactly the same as stock.:iono: I started to think that i've got something messed up..
Here are some before and after pictures and the front strut.
Before:
http://imgur.com/V4uGksJ
After:
http://imgur.com/diPuzg6
Front strut:
http://imgur.com/tuFAlwy
Did i do something wrong or should I wait for the springs to settle in a bit more?
Btw, there are no weird noises or anything, the car handles beautifly.

Darkrune 08-07-2017 12:51 PM

Looks fine to me. Let them settle.

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Tamukas 08-07-2017 05:07 PM

If they are supposed to look like that, I will end up cutting them.. ��

x808drifter 08-07-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamukas (Post 2958271)
If they are supposed to look like that, I will end up cutting them.. ��

Do it...
:popcorn:

Clipdat 08-07-2017 05:25 PM

"Looks fine" really dude? The front didn't lower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2958128)
Looks fine to me. Let them settle.

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Darkrune 08-07-2017 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2958286)
"Looks fine" really dude? The front didn't lower.

Really dude, looks like an inch drop springs when you first put them on. The car clearly has a mild drop 1". Look on a big screen.

Darkrune 08-07-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamukas (Post 2958271)
If they are supposed to look like that, I will end up cutting them.. ��

It will take a little while for them to settle, just be patient. You don't want to drop the car any lower without accessories.

Clipdat 08-07-2017 06:09 PM

Are you new? Because you seem new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2958311)
Really dude, looks like an inch drop springs when you first put them on. The car clearly has a mild drop 1". Look on a big screen.


Darkrune 08-07-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2958318)
Are you new? Because you seem new.

Are you blind? Because you seem blind. I've lower half a dozen of these cars with RCE yellows. Same results immediately after you put the springs on.

"Yesterday I installed lowering springs from vogtland. They claimed that their springs will lower the car 2.5cm (1')" Oh looks like a one inch spring one day after install. Hm, wonder if they need time to settle.

Should look something similar to this after settling.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=213

Clipdat 08-07-2017 07:42 PM

LOL, I'm blind? Remember, you are the one who just said that I need to "Look on a big screen" - as if MOAR PIXELS will suddenly allow me to see that the wheel gap in the front isn't exactly the same in the before and after photos.

Put both photos into Photoshop and overlay the front wheel section and you can see that the fender/wheel gap is exactly the same.

Also are you implying that the OP didn't take any measurements before and after?

I had RCE Yellows and even though they are only .75" drop versus the 1" drop springs we're discussing, my front was still well lower than his is in the "after" photo. I understand that springs can settle, but not an entire inch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2958326)
Are you blind? Because you seem blind. I've lower half a dozen of these cars with RCE yellows. Same results immediately after you put the springs on.

"Yesterday I installed lowering springs from vogtland. They claimed that their springs will lower the car 2.5cm (1')" Oh looks like a one inch spring one day after install. Hm, wonder if they need time to settle.

Should look something similar to this after settling.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=213


Clipdat 08-07-2017 07:49 PM

Aren't the springs with the closer/tighter section of wound spring on the top supposed to go in the rears? But these are on the front? Front and rears reversed maybe?


http://i.imgur.com/tuFAlwy.jpg

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi.../f/0/f065s.jpg

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi..._springs-1.jpg

Darkrune 08-07-2017 07:49 PM

The gap is no where near the same. Overlays only work if you carry the same angle. One photo being taken at 45 degrees and the other taken at 90 degrees. Looks like a 7/8" drop just from eye balling. The car still clearly has been lowered and not settled. I know the OP didn't measure, otherwise I am sure he would have those figures posted.

Darkrune 08-07-2017 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 2958372)
Aren't the springs with the closer/tighter section of wound spring on the top supposed to go in the rears? But these are on the front? Front and rears reversed maybe?

http://i.imgur.com/tuFAlwy.jpg

The should compress the same either way, but the difference would be in unsprung weight. Aesthetically it would likely look the same in the drop.

Edit: Wait those are on the front? The "skinnier" springs should be on the back. The larger springs should be on the front strut.

Edit 2: This is my car's front strut http://i.imgur.com/bEawsMl.jpg

This is the car after two weeks.
http://i.imgur.com/vz57tZG.jpg

Clipdat 08-07-2017 08:11 PM

This is what I said above. I think you read my post too quickly and thought I meant upside down instead of reversed front and back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2958375)
Edit: Wait those are on the front? The "skinnier" springs should be on the back. The larger springs should be on the front strut.



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