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pr0xy 07-24-2017 01:26 PM

Wild new louvers appeared - who produces them?
 
Just saw this on instagram ... any idea who makes these louvers?

https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram...84020736_n.jpg

They look way more aggressive than the regular louvers from TRD. Would love to know who produces them :wub:

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 07-24-2017 01:27 PM

As far as I know, the Lambo louvres were a one off for probably that car in the pic. I don't think they were mass produced.

burningjello 07-24-2017 01:52 PM

These are part of a groupbuy on Facebook, put out by Ikon Motorsports I believe. Let me see if I can find the link.

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/ft86/commen...y_link_retail/

ImAdopted 07-24-2017 02:57 PM

these louvers on a blacked out car would be everything :wub:

Tcoat 07-24-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImAdopted (Post 2950848)
these louvers on a blacked out car would be everything :wub:

Those louvers on a stock body would look ludicrous. I would want blacked out windows so nobody would see my shame.


Now these would look great!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1358279021

ImAdopted 07-24-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2950875)
Those louvers on a stock body would look ludicrous. I would want blacked out windows so nobody would see my shame.


Now these would look great!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1358279021

i was looking at it more from a batmobile perspective but i do agree the original TRD ones still beats all :thumbup:

fx1mark 07-24-2017 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2950875)
Those louvers on a stock body would look ludicrous. I would want blacked out windows so nobody would see my shame.


Now these would look great!


I believe those are one-off custom. I like them as well. this is the TRD version. they have a hole for the brake light. without the center braces I don't know if they are practical. they also don't have any visible attachments. how do they mount and lift for cleaning.

SuperTom 07-24-2017 06:01 PM

The louvers are really growing on me. The price is a bit steep I remember my old Camaro ones were like $100 bucks. I like the TRD ones best for mostly stock body.

Teseo 07-24-2017 06:17 PM

That shape looks like aventador on op

Drakiv 07-24-2017 09:25 PM

I like that look, would look pretty good on a wide body. I cant use a lot of the louvers I have found because the brake light cut out is on the bottom and I moved my brake light to the top.

blackfireball5 07-27-2017 01:52 PM

Part of a group buy that ends on 7/31.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/323095141461962/

Here's some images on a non-widebody car:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c4&oe=5A34EE14

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0d&oe=5A0678D6

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...96&oe=5A336CEC

matchamochi 07-30-2017 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fx1mark (Post 2950999)
I believe those are one-off custom. I like them as well. this is the TRD version. they have a hole for the brake light. without the center braces I don't know if they are practical. they also don't have any visible attachments. how do they mount and lift for cleaning.

Louvers are not practical at all no matter how you cut it. Strictly aesthetics. And these are the IKON ones. They're going for about half the price of TRD ones - but they aren't as clean in my opinion.

They mount very similar to the TRD ones - just unscrew and pop off for easy removal.

SuperTom 07-30-2017 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchamochi (Post 2954093)
Louvers are not practical at all no matter how you cut it. Strictly aesthetics. And these are the IKON ones. They're going for about half the price of TRD ones - but they aren't as clean in my opinion.

They mount very similar to the TRD ones - just unscrew and pop off for easy removal.



I wish someone would do groupbuy on the TRD ones at half price.

fx1mark 07-30-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchamochi (Post 2954093)
Louvers are not practical at all no matter how you cut it. Strictly aesthetics. And these are the IKON ones. They're going for about half the price of TRD ones - but they aren't as clean in my opinion.

They mount very similar to the TRD ones - just unscrew and pop off for easy removal.



the practical part is they block the sun. the mounting I was referring to was the set that Tcoat had posted.

Ernest72 07-30-2017 05:06 PM

Not a fan!

Darkrune 07-30-2017 07:24 PM

I pulled the trigger on this. American aesthetic touch and the AE had very similar shape. I would be interested in seeing wind tunnel. I also live in Florida, go sun.

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Mr Nerd 09-01-2017 04:49 AM

I am so damn pissed that missed out on these. These louvers are probably the only purely cosmetic mod that I am dying to get.

Hope another group buy happens soon!

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Mr Nerd 09-01-2017 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2954269)
I pulled the trigger on this. American aesthetic touch and the AE had very similar shape. I would be interested in seeing wind tunnel. I also live in Florida, go sun.

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These would be purely functional in a wind tunnel, I am almost certain. If anyone has an obj or f3d file of an 86 with these louvers I would be happy to throw it in the wind tunnel.

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VIP BRZ 09-01-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Nerd (Post 2971412)
I am so damn pissed that missed out on these. These louvers are probably the only purely cosmetic mod that I am dying to get.

Hope another group buy happens soon!

Sent from my Galaxy S8+ using Tapatalk

Theres a second group buy in the works

https://m.facebook.com/groups/106819763346904

SuperTom 09-01-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP BRZ (Post 2971550)
Theres a second group buy in the works

https://m.facebook.com/groups/106819763346904



I wonder if they could do the groupbuy on here too. Sorry I wont sign up for FaceF*ck. I don't need every spying idiot knowing everytime I take a sh*t

VIP BRZ 09-01-2017 01:12 PM

I agree, I Hate it when the only way to communicate/participate in things is through Facebook. I have an account and can log in but.. unprofessional and annoying.

Ikon used to have vendor-ship here, but have since not payed there dues?

would be cool if we could get in contact with the rep that used to hang around
@Angela.IKON

Johnny. 09-04-2017 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 2971577)
I wonder if they could do the groupbuy on here too. Sorry I wont sign up for FaceF*ck. I don't need every spying idiot knowing everytime I take a sh*t

You don't have to put any personal info on Facebook, just make like a throw away account. It just used for him send you his email and you go from there. And so he can keep a list on the group buy page to see who has paid etc.

Mithosphere 09-10-2017 02:01 PM

I bought them:

http://i.imgur.com/SoqvuFs.jpg

Given that the Ikon Motorsports louvers are about a 1/4 to 1/3 the price of the TRD louvers, some of the parts are cheaply made:

The brackets (https://www.amazon.com/Double-Adhesi...ble+sided+tape) are small rectangles with a double sided tape holding it down - some of them came warped or bent. There are threaded posts sticking up from the brackets which are first threaded (sometimes very poorly) and painted black.

The supplied hardware - washers and acorn nuts - aren't exactly useful. The washers eventually rust after a week or so - even quicker after it's rained. The acorn nuts are nylon and don't exactly fit the threaded posts or eventually come loose.

The weather sealing strip that is provided works if everything else is perfect - which it isn't. It's very thin and only two rolls are provided - enough for about half of the louvers - to prevent vibration.

Having to buy the thicker weather stripping to eliminate all vibration at highway speeds and stainless washer and acorn nuts, isn't too bad.

The real flaw of these louvers is the brackets!

I'll need to find someone to make me some better brackets - ones that will cover a broader area. One large bracket across the top, one on each side, and one across the bottom would do it, instead of nine separate brackets.

DAEMANO 09-10-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny. (Post 2972528)
You don't have to put any personal info on Facebook, just make like a throw away account. It just used for him send you his email and you go from there. And so he can keep a list on the group buy page to see who has paid etc.

Making more Facebook accounts doesn't help resolve the problem of FB itself. Matter of fact, it does just the opposite. Many folks have come to understanding after using some critical thought as to why all FB's services are offered to them for "free". The billion dollar infrastructure FB has invested in must (by definition) result in a profitable product to sell and that is you. FB's active measures mitigate the (sarcasm incoming) very clever and not thought of tactic of opening a phony account by functioning outside of your active participation after you have agreed to their ToS.

How? FB identifies your computer or phone's specific hardware, assigns it a key, geolocates it and then installs damn near undeletable software that allows them to know your browsing history, location, keystrokes (whether "submitted" or not), and heat maps your mousing actions whether you've clicked or not. All this happens upon sign up regardless of you giving them phony credentials or even logging into that account ever again.

And how do they do that? By triangulating the hardware key and location of the phony account against your real FB account hardware key as well as hardware keys from technology "partners" that you unwittingly agreed to participate with when you conveniently "logged in with Facebook" while not noticing or caring that they clearly state they will share your information with their technology partners unless opted out. Together discerning who you are, what you do, what you love and hate and what motivates you to act is used to make you believe you want or do not want things. Like Ford over Chevy or, or this political candidate over that one. If you think it doesn't work you're wrong. No one's mind is an uninfluenced steel trap only accessible by their permission.

The only way to keep this from working is to minimize your accessible private data footprint by not exposing yourself to websites where you are the product. Faux accounts do not accomplish this. Please stop encouraging people to make them.

Also vote with your wallet, insist that retailers operate outside of sites like Facebook. Don't shop at retailers that offer Facebook only specials. If you're in the U.S. remind retailers, friends, and government agencies that they are alienating and not reaching 200 million Americans and 5 billion people of the world that aren't in The Face Book.

Finally read up on Facebook's damn near psychotic practices and business conduct and at least hear out why they're dangerous to participate in. This is no small matter.

BRZyJ 09-10-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2976033)
Making more Facebook accounts doesn't help resolve the problem of FB itself. Matter of fact, it does just the opposite.

Indeed. I have all known facebook hosts blocked at my router, along with as many of their data mining/ad partners as I can identify. On mobile devices I use a hosts file delivered and updated via Ad Away. It breaks some things, but nothing I care too much about and annoyed guests can use their mobile data instead of my wifi if they need facebook that bad.

Besides the concerns mentioned above, I'm not interested in helping put money in Zuckerberg's pocket...he's a grade A douchebag. One of his 'neighbors' on Kauai is an acquaintance, so I'm well versed.

For anyone so inclined, here's a good start:

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklist...s/facebook/all

The raw version of that can be used and updated directly by several apps and utilities. That particular one will block some instagram and whatsapp stuff as well, but there are some less stringent ones available:

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklist...tions/facebook

Th3rdSun 09-10-2017 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIP BRZ (Post 2971593)
I agree, I Hate it when the only way to communicate/participate in things is through Facebook. I have an account and can log in but.. unprofessional and annoying.

Ikon used to have vendor-ship here, but have since not payed there dues?

would be cool if we could get in contact with the rep that used to hang around
@Angela.IKON

Yeah,I agree about Facebook. I don't have an account,and will probably never get one,so I guess I'm out of luck on some stuff.

I tried to ask about ordering something from Ikon a while back and never got a response. They seem to be pretty terrible at customer service.

why? 09-10-2017 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2976033)
Making more Facebook accounts doesn't help resolve the problem of FB itself. Matter of fact, it does just the opposite. Many folks have come to understanding after using some critical thought as to why all FB's services are offered to them for "free". The billion dollar infrastructure FB has invested in must (by definition) result in a profitable product to sell and that is you. FB's active measures mitigate the (sarcasm incoming) very clever and not thought of tactic of opening a phony account by functioning outside of your active participation after you have agreed to their ToS.

How? FB identifies your computer or phone's specific hardware, assigns it a key, geolocates it and then installs damn near undeletable software that allows them to know your browsing history, location, keystrokes (whether "submitted" or not), and heat maps your mousing actions whether you've clicked or not. All this happens upon sign up regardless of you giving them phony credentials or even logging into that account ever again.

And how do they do that? By triangulating the hardware key and location of the phony account against your real FB account hardware key as well as hardware keys from technology "partners" that you unwittingly agreed to participate with when you conveniently "logged in with Facebook" while not noticing or caring that they clearly state they will share your information with their technology partners unless opted out. Together discerning who you are, what you do, what you love and hate and what motivates you to act is used to make you believe you want or do not want things. Like Ford over Chevy or, or this political candidate over that one. If you think it doesn't work you're wrong. No one's mind is an uninfluenced steel trap only accessible by their permission.

The only way to keep this from working is to minimize your accessible private data footprint by not exposing yourself to websites where you are the product. Faux accounts do not accomplish this. Please stop encouraging people to make them.

Also vote with your wallet, insist that retailers operate outside of sites like Facebook. Don't shop at retailers that offer Facebook only specials. If you're in the U.S. remind retailers, friends, and government agencies that they are alienating and not reaching 200 million Americans and 5 billion people of the world that aren't in The Face Book.

Finally read up on Facebook's damn near psychotic practices and business conduct and at least hear out why they're dangerous to participate in. This is no small matter.

The problem is facebook is just one of many companies that do this. If you have a credit card, a home loan, a car loan, or have ever given any of your personal info to anyone on the planet, they already know everything about you, and in many cases these companies are so great at collating data and matching people up to fragments of data they know things you've forgotten. Online or offline it doesn't matter, privacy died a long time ago.

DAEMANO 09-11-2017 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 2976216)
The problem is facebook is just one of many companies that do this. If you have a credit card, a home loan, a car loan, or have ever given any of your personal info to anyone on the planet, they already know everything about you, and in many cases these companies are so great at collating data and matching people up to fragments of data they know things you've forgotten. Online or offline it doesn't matter, privacy died a long time ago.

Sorry that your feelings about this have driven you to this level of submission. Are you saying if you've given someone your name, address and SSN to conduct a business transaction, that you should then also hand that and more (like your diary, photo albums, personal/private networks, and geolocation data) to companies like FB and Google? In a financial transaction the products are transaction services, loaned money, or purchased goods, the cost is a percentage of the transaction. To social networks, the product appears to be a facilitated communications platform, but in the end users pay by providing an in-depth profile of their emotions, life and mind for the purposes of targeted messaging & advertising. The product is you. How in the world is this comparable?

Point from above is that those that minimize their data privacy footprint will have the smallest pool of data to be drawn from and thus the least accurate data profiles available.

Which platform users have provided the most data points for profile building?

  • The over the air TV user vs. DirectTV, Cable user?
  • The VPN internet user vs. Open Internet user?
  • The cash customer vs credit/debit customer?
  • The FaceBook user vs Internet Forums user?
Also remember, this isn't just about providing data, but it's also about carelessly using platforms like Facebook & Google that actively regurgitate targeted messages to you. Facebook is toxic because it creates complex psychographic profiles that the user doesn't know they're fully capable of making and then it uses those profiles to serve up ads that will be more effective than any in history at the precise time you are most available to receive them. The notion that people defend and submit to this model is proof of the efficacy of their marketing techniques.

Thankfully there are millions in the US and billions worldwide that don't think same thing about privacy. You can stop using these services. You can stop providing data hand-over-fist to miners and marketers. You can especially stop doing business with companies that rely on your private information as free raw materials provided by and defended by people that it exploits the most. That's why he refers to his own users the way he does.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F-NbWLOHX3...25023516_n.jpg

Syche 09-11-2017 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2950875)
Those louvers on a stock body would look ludicrous. I would want blacked out windows so nobody would see my shame.


Now these would look great!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1358279021


LOL that is too funny... if i ever decide to chop up the frs and go widebody and blah blah blah then maybe LOL but ill leave those to the stangs out there

why? 09-11-2017 07:24 PM

You are totally and completely missing my point. Everyone you have ever given your private info for, whether it be getting a credit card, a home loan, buying your car, getting a job, etc. Literally anything you need to fill out any type of application for has info on you that they will sell.

Do you have a cell phone? If you do you are already giving up your photo albums, personal/private networks, and geolocation data because a cell phone is a tracker you pay for, and they can listen in and see in with the microphone and camera. And why do you think what you talk about on your calls is private? You can buy a reciever that can listen in on most cell phone calls for dirt cheap.

There are multiple companies that do exactly what you say facebook does. They just buy their data from others. Your ip address is tracked every site you go. Your physical location is tracked by your phone, your car, and every time you use any other payment method besides cash. It is also tracked by everyone else's phone and every security camera everywhere. Many places now have microphones to record everything.

The fact you think anyone is defending anything is absurd. The reality of the situation is far worse than you are giving it credit for. You cannot withdraw completely from society, it is not possible unless you go live on a mountain and kill your own food and make your own clothes and literally never interact with society. Otherwise anything you can possibly think of doing will create data that will be sold. And every company out there sells everything they can, because it is extra money.

Facebook is literally just the tip of the iceberg. Without legislation making it illegal to sell people's personal info, privacy is dead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2976281)
Sorry that your feelings about this have driven you to this level of submission. Are you saying if you've given someone your name, address and SSN to conduct a business transaction, that you should then also hand that and more (like your diary, photo albums, personal/private networks, and geolocation data) to companies like FB and Google? In a financial transaction the products are transaction services, loaned money, or purchased goods, the cost is a percentage of the transaction. To social networks, the product appears to be a facilitated communications platform, but in the end users pay by providing an in-depth profile of their emotions, life and mind for the purposes of targeted messaging & advertising. The product is you. How in the world is this comparable?

Point from above is that those that minimize their data privacy footprint will have the smallest pool of data to be drawn from and thus the least accurate data profiles available.

Which platform users have provided the most data points for profile building?

  • The over the air TV user vs. DirectTV, Cable user?
  • The VPN internet user vs. Open Internet user?
  • The cash customer vs credit/debit customer?
  • The FaceBook user vs Internet Forums user?
Also remember, this isn't just about providing data, but it's also about carelessly using platforms like Facebook & Google that actively regurgitate targeted messages to you. Facebook is toxic because it creates complex psychographic profiles that the user doesn't know they're fully capable of making and then it uses those profiles to serve up ads that will be more effective than any in history at the precise time you are most available to receive them. The notion that people defend and submit to this model is proof of the efficacy of their marketing techniques.

Thankfully there are millions in the US and billions worldwide that don't think same thing about privacy. You can stop using these services. You can stop providing data hand-over-fist to miners and marketers. You can especially stop doing business with companies that rely on your private information as free raw materials provided by and defended by people that it exploits the most. That's why he refers to his own users the way he does.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-F-NbWLOHX3...25023516_n.jpg


DAEMANO 09-11-2017 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 2976703)
You are totally and completely missing my point. Everyone you have ever given your private info for, whether it be getting a credit card, a home loan, buying your car, getting a job, etc. Literally anything you need to fill out any type of application for has info on you that they will sell.

Do you have a cell phone? If you do you are already giving up your photo albums, personal/private networks, and geolocation data because a cell phone is a tracker you pay for, and they can listen in and see in with the microphone and camera. And why do you think what you talk about on your calls is private? You can buy a reciever that can listen in on most cell phone calls for dirt cheap.

There are multiple companies that do exactly what you say facebook does. They just buy their data from others. Your ip address is tracked every site you go. Your physical location is tracked by your phone, your car, and every time you use any other payment method besides cash. It is also tracked by everyone else's phone and every security camera everywhere. Many places now have microphones to record everything.

The fact you think anyone is defending anything is absurd. The reality of the situation is far worse than you are giving it credit for. You cannot withdraw completely from society, it is not possible unless you go live on a mountain and kill your own food and make your own clothes and literally never interact with society. Otherwise anything you can possibly think of doing will create data that will be sold. And every company out there sells everything they can, because it is extra money.

Facebook is literally just the tip of the iceberg. Without legislation making it illegal to sell people's personal info, privacy is dead.


I understood your point. It still doesn't justify using, espousing, or defending giving my data to companies like FB & Google. The point that you're missing isn't so much that private data is out there. It's about which companies use that data to create a product out of you. About what companies use you as a primary monetization source. I gave my private data to the big three credit agencies years ago. They don't use that info to make a psychological profile of me, my friends, family and business constituents to sell me stuff and ideas. Big difference between the cable company, the lumber yard, Ft86club, and companies like Facebook/Google.

why? 09-12-2017 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2976787)
I understood your point. It still doesn't justify using, espousing, or defending giving my data to companies like FB & Google. The point that you're missing isn't so much that private data is out there. It's about which companies use that data to create a product out of you. About what companies use you as a primary monetization source. I gave my private data to the big three credit agencies years ago. They don't use that info to make a psychological profile of me, my friends, family and business constituents to sell me stuff and ideas. Big difference between the cable company, the lumber yard, Ft86club, and companies like Facebook/Google.

I'm not defending anything. Every company on the planet uses your private data as a product now. They all sell every scrap they get their hands on. The credit agencies absolutely sell your data.

DAEMANO 09-12-2017 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 2976929)
I'm not defending anything. Every company on the planet uses your private data as a product now. They all sell every scrap they get their hands on. The credit agencies absolutely sell your data.

No one is disputing that. You aren't seeing the difference between how FB/Google collect and use your private data and the way other companies do. Facebook's graph products are psychographic profiles of each user that include demographics as well as psychological profiles based off your minute by minute expression of ideas, geographic locations, system actions (and inactions), personal relationships, and photographs. This firehose of data is updated in near real time That data stream is considerably more invasive than a raw demographic data from a credit report or something like your grocery store loyalty card. Please try and understand the differences in the way Facebook's data is gathered and used, rather than other businesses that collect raw data and re-sell it. That is the crux of the problem and not just that business gather and resell.

Jeff86 09-12-2017 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithosphere (Post 2976018)
I bought them:

http://i.imgur.com/SoqvuFs.jpg

Given that the Ikon Motorsports louvers are about a 1/4 to 1/3 the price of the TRD louvers, some of the parts are cheaply made:

The brackets (https://www.amazon.com/Double-Adhesi...ble+sided+tape) are small rectangles with a double sided tape holding it down - some of them came warped or bent. There are threaded posts sticking up from the brackets which are first threaded (sometimes very poorly) and painted black.

The supplied hardware - washers and acorn nuts - aren't exactly useful. The washers eventually rust after a week or so - even quicker after it's rained. The acorn nuts are nylon and don't exactly fit the threaded posts or eventually come loose.

The weather sealing strip that is provided works if everything else is perfect - which it isn't. It's very thin and only two rolls are provided - enough for about half of the louvers - to prevent vibration.

Having to buy the thicker weather stripping to eliminate all vibration at highway speeds and stainless washer and acorn nuts, isn't too bad.

The real flaw of these louvers is the brackets!

I'll need to find someone to make me some better brackets - ones that will cover a broader area. One large bracket across the top, one on each side, and one across the bottom would do it, instead of nine separate brackets.

Da fu? This guy buys these louvers and all anyone want to do is talk about FB. Props dude!! They look good!

WRBrzRX 09-25-2017 10:53 AM

PSA:

Do NOT buy the Ikon louvers, all over the group buy thread they're showing pictures of cracks due to horribly thin design in 2 spots and OP is offering refunds. Additionally the hardware is garbage, everyone's looking to upgrade their threaded receivers and the tabs pop off of the window incredibly easy. They're sending half the amount of gasketing. Communication with OP and Ikon about this sucks, I've been dealing with them for months just to get my set.

The group buy is full of people offering links to better hardware and talking about how to fix the cracks.


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