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tony-brz 07-17-2017 08:14 PM

Harrop

scottman 07-17-2017 08:32 PM

research more. save more.
a s/c if you want more reliability..
read read read

go_a_way1 07-17-2017 08:32 PM

.... But less power :p (all else being relatively equal)

paiceyfan 07-17-2017 08:35 PM

If you want reliability...Edelbrock supercharger or Jackson Racing. With Edelbrock you can use an authorized installer and get a warranty of sorts. Check out the forum section or Google Edelbrock and see the kit. As near to OEM as you are going to see.

go_a_way1 07-17-2017 08:42 PM

^ that is true my buddy has one its been great to him, however power output isn't nearly what I am making but his drives really nice too

paiceyfan 07-17-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2947309)
^ that is true my buddy has one its been great to him, however power output isn't nearly what I am making but his drives really nice too

Yes, the power will be limited by about 90+ hp or so, it really depends what you want. Most say up to 300 HP is relatively safe, before supporting mods and internals need to be included.

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go_a_way1 07-17-2017 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paiceyfan (Post 2947313)
Yes, the power will be limited by about 90+ hp or so, it really depends what you want. Most say up to 300 HP is relatively safe, before supporting mods and internals need to be included.

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I would say 400hp at the crank is kinda the margin of safety anything over that the risks go way up from what I have seen. E85 is also a good option for power and will save the OP a ton of money if he/she is only looking for 30hp or so

jcreel 07-18-2017 09:29 PM

Thanks all for the input! I have looked into the supercharger also but I feel I want the power from the turbo. I wish I could get e85 but my area has VERY few stations that have it which is weird because in Louisiana oil and gas pretty much runs the economy and it's my profession.

I'm brand new to the mod scene and no one around me really messes with it. My warranty is up so I felt its time to start. Just trying to find a starting point. I don't understand much as of right now but been doing research.

JDLAutoDesign 07-18-2017 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcreel (Post 2947862)
Thanks all for the input! I have looked into the supercharger also but I feel I want the power from the turbo. I wish I could get e85 but my area has VERY few stations that have it which is weird because in Louisiana oil and gas pretty much runs the economy and it's my profession.

I'm brand new to the mod scene and no one around me really messes with it. My warranty is up so I felt its time to start. Just trying to find a starting point. I don't understand much as of right now but been doing research.

If you have any questions about our systems and options we offer, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are more than happy to assist and perhaps help guide you toward a system that will best fit your goals within whatever price range you are considering. Even if that option isn't something we even offer. We have experience in virtually any system out there for the 86 so we can give you first hand experience to compare :thumbsup:

Tokay444 07-18-2017 10:58 PM

Get a custom pie cut titanium cat back built and call it a day.

Bfranklyn86 07-19-2017 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paiceyfan (Post 2947313)
Yes, the power will be limited by about 90+ hp or so, it really depends what you want. Most say up to 300 HP is relatively safe, before supporting mods and internals need to be included.

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That's no strictly true - you can get more power than this by building the engine and dropping pulley sizes with a supercharger (e.g Harrop are running ~420whp on their kit with e85) although agreed that it's diminishing returns with a supercharger and for big power a turbo makes sense.

Turbo people seem to have more heat issues though. Not to mention all the drivetrain issues with going above ~400whp

And there is also the argument about how much power you need in this car. Is the difference between having 350whp and 450whp going to be transformative in performance terms? I doubt it. The only situation I could see >350whp being needed would be if you are getting in to 'highway pull' races against other powerful cars.

jcreel 07-19-2017 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86 (Post 2948041)
Turbo people seem to have more heat issues though. Not to mention all the drivetrain issues with going above ~400whp

And there is also the argument about how much power you need in this car. Is the difference between having 350whp and 450whp going to be transformative in performance terms? I doubt it. The only situation I could see >350whp being needed would be if you are getting in to 'highway pull' races against other powerful cars.


I would like to get around 300-350whp. The heat issues is what I'm worried about, being in Louisiana we barley have a winter.

paiceyfan 07-19-2017 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86 (Post 2948041)
That's no strictly true - you can get more power than this by building the engine and dropping pulley sizes with a supercharger (e.g Harrop are running ~420whp on their kit with e85) although agreed that it's diminishing returns with a supercharger and for big power a turbo makes sense.

Turbo people seem to have more heat issues though. Not to mention all the drivetrain issues with going above ~400whp

And there is also the argument about how much power you need in this car. Is the difference between having 350whp and 450whp going to be transformative in performance terms? I doubt it. The only situation I could see >350whp being needed would be if you are getting in to 'highway pull' races against other powerful cars.

I was referring to as-is. Yes, if you make further mods, then much higher outputs are possible.

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