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SuperTom 06-30-2017 11:30 PM

Gent5 UEL header + Overpipe intial Review
 
Here is a review of the Gent5 UEL header + Overpipe found on FRSport.
http://www.frsport.com/Gent5-G1112-G...p_1478692.html




Waiting for the UPS man today got a head start taking off the stock headers and taking some measurements and weigths


First wanted to measure the inside diameter of the overpipe and secondary.
Looks to be 50mm inside or slightly less that 2" WEAK!


http://i.imgur.com/2k0SFPs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CcRoFWC.jpg


Weights
headers 20.8 lbs
http://i.imgur.com/1EY6z55.jpg


overpipe 4.6lbs
http://i.imgur.com/w5YxqOV.jpg




Then ordered my own heatshield stuff to cover oil pan near the header. Got some OCD and covered some areas of the engine too!
http://i.imgur.com/2D96gYH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/msvcwpL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gXEdZFx.jpg

SuperTom 06-30-2017 11:42 PM

THEY ARRIVE!
 
Arrived tonight so I will be installing them Sunday


Really Nice looking welds
http://i.imgur.com/pn8BItf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5nIGKd3.jpg


Best pic I could get of the Merge collector looks real clean and smooth
http://i.imgur.com/NC4VWsR.jpg


Then took some weights
Headers 15lbs
http://i.imgur.com/9rTxgoo.jpg
Over pipe 3.5 lbs and the overpipe looks nice as well
http://i.imgur.com/Zcy3ZP3.jpg


Inside Diameter of the overpipe and end of the header flange 58mm or about 2.25"
http://i.imgur.com/KzZgPgf.jpg


Only minor thing was one small section of the flanged wasn't machined the same but the area was still smooth and flat with the rest of the flange otherwise these are 99% perfect
http://i.imgur.com/y6Bhy2Z.jpg


More OCD kicked in And I always cover any flange, seal or gasket with a layer of Acousti Seal which is a tar like stuff. Wanted to extra seal the connecting pipes


http://i.imgur.com/fIzi6Jy.jpg


These were sealed very nice from the factory was able to get them apart about a 1/2" which was good enough to get some tar on
http://i.imgur.com/oV6lAkp.jpg


All back together and cleaned up. A lot of tar got pushed out telling me the stock seal is very precise.
http://i.imgur.com/QwwFdr3.jpg




Stay Tuned Sunday for my install!

Teseo 07-01-2017 12:08 AM

Glad you went for car parts and not cocaine and prostitute.

Andrew025 07-01-2017 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2938634)
Glad you went for car parts and not cocaine and prostitute.

Would have been a more interesting thread though.

SuperTom 07-01-2017 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2938634)
Glad you went for car parts and not cocaine and prostitute.

well I was in Vegas a few weeks ago...
http://i.imgur.com/muwY0zi.jpg

SuperTom 07-02-2017 03:31 PM

Installed
 
Installed this morning man this was the easiest header install Ive ever done. Didn't even need swivel attachments like others have said.


Here are the Siruda gaskets which can be purchased with the headers
http://i.imgur.com/i0r6k9O.jpg


The went to coating every flange with Acousti-Seal. Man I really love this stuff for making a sound/airproof seal, just wear some gloves because it can get messy.


http://i.imgur.com/xIzXmig.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OLz79bW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tD3p0rV.jpg


Installed the overpipe first. Couldn't imagine installing an overpipe with the headers still on the car


Bad pic but loosened the bottom bolt of the stock cat pipe to have some play with the overpipe to rear cat connection.
http://i.imgur.com/IpJnZEc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XLARCuG.jpg


All buttoned up everything fit perfect
http://i.imgur.com/ZtTQTBu.jpg


Plenty of space between the overpipe and suspension. I had added a layer of the insulation on the suspension incase it was close. Not the case had a good finger gap.
http://i.imgur.com/dL1eibY.jpg


Final Top down view
http://i.imgur.com/ftvfctV.jpg






Sound - don't have a good setup to record yet but there are plenty of clips of UEL headers with stock midpipe and catback on youtube.
First cold startup I thought man that's loud but not the case at all. Even without a cat this sounds quiet with the rest of the stock exhaust with a slight change to the rumble.
I could defineantly upgrade to a highflow cat and a more flowing catback but I would still go with something on the quieter scale


Power- NO tune yet but that delay in the middle rpms seems gone. Accelerated more linear. Cant wait to feel what a tune will do. Plus eliminating that cold start non-sense will be on my list.
Also the Blox CEL eliminator seems to be working so far with 100 miles driven we'll see. Time to drive again!

Teseo 07-02-2017 04:23 PM

Those gaskets are approved by Moltres

Andrew025 07-02-2017 05:10 PM

What's that seal like when you try to remove it?

SuperTom 07-02-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2939172)
Those gaskets are approved by Moltres



Don't know who the hell he is but I'm glad he approves!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2939185)
What's that seal like when you try to remove it?





Its easy to put on has about the same consistency of a silicone glue going on. Apparently heats and cures to be a bit more solid. So you would need to scrape it off. I used some mineral spirits to clean off the excess on the pipes. Thankfully for me I got 3 years until inspection so it will be on there for a while.


I felt under there while the car was jacked up and running. Zero I mean zero leaks! Here are some reviews on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Walker-35959-.../dp/B000CQDL94

ort895 02-15-2018 01:41 PM

You ever get around to getting a tune?

Timmy_Jones 02-15-2018 02:02 PM

Is the overpipe size of 2.25" smaller than stock? Or other header/OP combos?

SuperTom 02-15-2018 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ort895 (Post 3044582)
You ever get around to getting a tune?

Been running on OFT v3 beta tune since install. Runs great even in really cold temps since then. Lot more mid rang torque which this car needs. Heard there is a v4 tune coming out soon!

SuperTom 02-15-2018 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones (Post 3044591)
Is the overpipe size of 2.25" smaller than stock? Or other header/OP combos?

From my measurements above 2.25" is the inside diameter. I believe stock is 2.25" outside diameter. So bigger without being overkill. I run into a 60mm HKS dual resonated front pipe and HKS rear legamax catback. Keeps the velocity of flow the same all the way through

ort895 02-16-2018 10:32 PM

Ordered a header just now, we'll see how it goes.


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