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whitehammer86 06-24-2017 01:59 AM

lol this is where your root hatred started! Simplicity at it's best.

Tcoat 06-24-2017 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by whitehammer86 (Post 2934521)
Do you not realize how stupid that sounds?

Do you know who made the parts? Not Subaru. They just bolted them together. There is a list on here and Mitsubishi made more parts on the car than Subaru did. They literally just assembled them. You do know the differences between manufacturing and assembly right?

Tcoat 06-24-2017 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by whitehammer86 (Post 2934522)
lol this is where your root hatred started! Simplicity at it's best.

Oh look at the times dude. I read ALL threads. You are in no way special to me.

gramicci101 06-24-2017 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 2934374)
I can't believe no one has built/sells a bolt in fuel cell, or at least a baffled replacement tank for these cars that are tracked so much.

I've never heard about the steering issue, but I haven't autox or tracked this car.

Moto-East was working on a surge tank set within the engine bay. I haven't heard anything about it in a while though. I don't know if they're still working on it or not. Beyond that, you're looking at universal auto racing fuel cells and surge tanks.

The steering issue is because the power steering is electric and doesn't have a whole lot of cooling. For normal and slightly excessive use, it's fine. But if you're really working it hard (TWSS) it'll overheat and shut off. And boom, manual steering.

Also, fuck yeah, Wolfenstein. I don't think my computer could run slow enough to play it though.

mrg666 06-24-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho (Post 2934374)
I can't believe no one has built/sells a bolt in fuel cell, or at least a baffled replacement tank for these cars that are tracked so much.

I've never heard about the steering issue, but I haven't autox or tracked this car.

I was thinking about this fuel starvation issue today while going to the gas station with less than one quarter tank gas. Maybe this is not as big of an issue as we perceive. I have read many times in this forum about fuel starvation but haven't seen really somebody experienced a failure because of it. Do you know any such case reported here?

Tcoat 06-24-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mrg666 (Post 2934599)
I was thinking about this fuel starvation issue today while going to the gas station with less than one quarter tank gas. Maybe this is not as big of an issue as we perceive. I have read many times in this forum about fuel starvation but haven't seen really somebody experienced a failure because of it. Do you know any such case reported here?

There are several people that have experienced fuel starvation during heavy track use. Most are FI so they may be sucking way more than stock anyway. I do not recall a single case where they mentioned failure due to it.

Sapphireho 06-24-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2934609)
There are several people that have experienced fuel starvation during heavy track use. Most are FI so they may be sucking way more than stock anyway. I do not recall a single case where they mentioned failure due to it.

FI with e85 you're sucking fuel really fast.

chulooz 06-24-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2934500)
Subaru assembled the car. They didn't make anything.

True, except for the frame, suspension, hubs, brakes, body panels, safety equipment, engine block, motor accessories, and wiring. Everything else was just assembly. Either way, its much more a subaru than any other mark.

dnieves 06-24-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2934526)
Do you know who made the parts? Not Subaru. They just bolted them together. There is a list on here and Mitsubishi made more parts on the car than Subaru did. They literally just assembled them. You do know the differences between manufacturing and assembly right?



Shhhhhh!! Don't say the M word, the only positive that came from Mitsubishi were the original Eclipses, EVO, and Diamond Vision. Aside from that everything they touch turns to crap (consumer electronics, cars, and banking).


:)

Tcoat 06-24-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chulooz (Post 2934666)
True, except for the frame, suspension, hubs, brakes, body panels, safety equipment, engine block, motor accessories, and wiring. Everything else was just assembly. Either way, its much more a subaru than any other mark.

There is a list of who made what. Subaru themselves make virtually nothing. Almost no car manufacturers make parts anymore. You are confusing Subaru contracted parts with Subaru made parts.

Tcoat 06-24-2017 04:06 PM

Here you go Subie fan boys that think they make things

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

gramicci101 06-24-2017 04:10 PM

GM8 is still best Subaru.

VoltsFRS2013 06-24-2017 04:15 PM

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chulooz 06-25-2017 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2934726)
Here you go Subie fan boys that think they make things

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71898

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2934724)
There is a list of who made what. Subaru themselves make virtually nothing. Almost no car manufacturers make parts anymore. You are confusing Subaru contracted parts with Subaru made parts.


Engine + chassis + builder = more subaru than any other maker. You are wrong to say they make virtually nothing when they build the key components that are the motor and frame.

By your logic no car that subaru makes would be a subaru, but that isnt true, they are all subarus. The fact that the brand doesnt make every part they use doesnt take away from the product as a whole, a subaru. No one blames or praises those subsidiary brands when something goes wrong or right, they recognize the builder (subaru) and the seller (subaru) as the parent/representative that they are; their parts bin is what came together to build this car. If you had to put one name on this car it is subaru, unquestionably more so than toyota. That is not a good or bad thing, it is just the reality of this car. :burnrubber:


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