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artongdou 06-06-2017 10:59 PM

Camera mounting position for track day
 
All I want is to capture at least my steering input and the track through windshield or side window with only one camera, most likely GoPro. I am gonna use Harry's lap timer for timing stuff. And the nice thing about it is that it allows video overlap.

So my question is where should I mount the camera? I am really looking someone with a snapshot and where the camera is mounted so that I can get a feel of it.

Thanks!:party0030:

spike021 06-06-2017 11:07 PM

Maybe the driver-side quarter window?

tacos 06-06-2017 11:19 PM

if i were to do it, i'd use a go pro somehow mounted to the headrest post, so it extends to the center of the car on your right

i'm sure someone makes a jig

mav1178 06-06-2017 11:30 PM

Rear windshield suction mount is fine for 99% of the cameras out on the market.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr3901PZCQA"]2:07.152 - Buttonwillow Raceway Park - 9 April 2016 - YouTube[/ame]

OND 06-06-2017 11:33 PM

Passenger quarter window, suction mount, 1080p, medium FOV:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7Km8kCtkA&t=338s"]BRZ and Miata dancing in the rain - Harris Hill Raceway - 6.4.2017 - YouTube[/ame]

Good for driver inputs, not so good for seeing the track. You probably also want to turn on spot metering. I left it off and got away with it due to overcast weather. Need the windows closed to hear the engine.

The other option is driver side quarter window on the outside. That shows more of the track while including all driver inputs, but the A pillar in the middle of view kinda bothers me. Wind noise is also pretty terrible.

mav1178 06-06-2017 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OND (Post 2923986)
The other option is driver side quarter window on the outside. That shows more of the track while including all driver inputs, but the A pillar in the middle of view kinda bothers me. Wind noise is also pretty terrible.

I disagree, the problem with this view is you cannot see your gear shifting if you have manual.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf0bUg-bpQ"]Circuit of the Americas - 29 April 2016 3:00.78 in my Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

navanodd 06-06-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacos (Post 2923981)
if i were to do it, i'd use a go pro somehow mounted to the headrest post, so it extends to the center of the car on your right

i'm sure someone makes a jig

This sounds like the best bet to me.

OND 06-06-2017 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2923988)
I disagree, the problem with this view is you cannot see your gear shifting if you have manual.

Circuit of the Americas - 29 April 2016 3:00.78 in my Subaru BRZ - YouTube

Yeah, just checked and the shift knob area is mostly blocked by the helmet in my vids too. I mount the Gopro a little differently and use wide FOV for that position, but still...

Also, COTA in the BRZ :thumbsup::thumbsup:

trippinbillies40 06-07-2017 10:28 AM

+1 for upside down hanging from the rear window for track days:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE7uy-tvOxA"]Putnam Park 5/4/14 With 10/10ths Motorsports - YouTube[/ame]

For autocross, I tend to put it on the outside quarter window so I can see how close to cones I'm getting, at least on the left side.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it1Mcvg1Ays"]2015 Solo Nationals 140 STX - YouTube[/ame]

If you're going to mount it inside, be sure to turn on spot metering. Otherwise you'll get a beautiful shot of your dash and a completely blown out exterior.

thomasmryan 06-07-2017 10:32 AM

speak softly and carry a big stick.




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Joon525 06-07-2017 11:00 AM

I have this.

I don't use it for track purposes, it's more for a photography project and I'm a little concerned that it may not be sturdy enough with my camera on it but for a GoPro? Probably no problem.
It's cheap enough that if it doesn't work out it's not a huge loss.

Jyn 06-07-2017 11:24 AM

Rear windshield, hanging upside down.

Or create a headrest mount easily - tube, two u-clamps, drill some bolts into it, use a washer and nut to secure the u-clamps, put a go-pro plastic receiver mount on the other end of the tube.

You will want some sort of damping for vibrations on this set up. My footage gets a little shaky at faster run groups.

Yanbags 06-07-2017 11:59 AM

I just use the gopro suction cup mount at the top of the rear windshield, works great.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuEVsnzop3E"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuEVsnzop3E[/ame]

OND 06-07-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanbags (Post 2924217)
I just use the gopro suction cup mount at the top of the rear windshield, works great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuEVsnzop3E

That sounds pretty awesome, where did you put the mic? I'd also consider a narrower FOV to see more track and less interior.

Yanbags 06-07-2017 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OND (Post 2924244)
That sounds pretty awesome, where did you put the mic? I'd also consider a narrower FOV to see more track and less interior.

Thanks! I taped the mic on the rear bumper, maybe about 4 inches from the passenger-side exhaust tip. I think I use a medium FOV and I like it because you get to see out the side windows as well.

Scrappydoo 06-07-2017 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanbags (Post 2924217)
I just use the gopro suction cup mount at the top of the rear windshield, works great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuEVsnzop3E

Will that work with a tint?

soulreapersteve 06-07-2017 07:19 PM

I have the headrest mount from http://www.headrestmount.co.uk/

It is definitely pricey, but I absolutely love it. I do second the suggestions for go pro suction mount on rear window however! Much cheaper alternative!!


[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJa5NNH3LXQ"]SCCA Event3 2017 - YouTube[/ame]

mav1178 06-07-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2924460)
Will that work with a tint?

Worked fine for single day events.

-alex

Marat 06-07-2017 09:42 PM

Made this mount last year. Cost me about 16 bucks in material.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...pskfoxsjni.jpg

artongdou 06-08-2017 12:44 AM

Thanks for all the inputs! I like the headrest mount view the most. But the suction cup at rear window will be acceptable too.

UFO 06-15-2017 04:00 PM

My $20 headrest mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MUHLRES/

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unV68YdwHBs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unV68YdwHBs[/ame]

Scrappydoo 06-15-2017 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFO (Post 2929271)


Excellent find thanks. £25 over here but I'm still having one.

Cheersmedears :bow:

Vracer111 06-15-2017 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2924460)
Will that work with a tint?

Suction cups work fine with tint, I've mounted my Go-pro at the top of the rear... I like high view on the rear window or interior-side helmet mounting (great to see where you are focusing on track, though I use my eyes more than moving my whole head sometimes so not totally an accurate representation on where you are focusing). Go-pro car kit comes with adhesive helmet mounts.

https://youtu.be/46UR_tI7ZrY

https://youtu.be/xzbKAahWEw8

TofuJoe 06-15-2017 06:52 PM

I like the Tackform headrest mount a lot: http://amzn.to/2sxHkhQ

At $70, it's obviously more than a $20 plastic mount or $20 DIY solution.
But it's made like a nice piece of photography grip equipment -- all metal, high quality, with multiple adjustment points for the perfect angle.

I mount the camera on the passenger side, and use Wi-Fi app preview on the phone to get the camera angle dialed in.

UFO 06-15-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2929287)
Excellent find thanks. £25 over here but I'm still having one.

Cheersmedears :bow:

One thing to remember too if you're using a GoPro and it's your first time using one in car: turn on the spot meter mode otherwise everything outside the windshield will be totally washed out.

I lost a whole day of footage because of that :(.


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