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Darkrune 08-13-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2961468)
Watch "MODIFIED BRZ dyno power numbers" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/iWcGW-wlOEg

We don't have dyno numbers for these new tunes to compare. This is ecu tech and a custom tune. So now we need these canned tune numbers on the dyno for 2017.

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JermMX5 08-13-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2961492)
We don't have dyno numbers for these new tunes to compare. This is ecu tech and a custom tune. So now we need these canned tune numbers on the dyno for 2017.

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That's coming on wednesday, I have 4 dyno pulls that I'll do 2 as a baseline, and 2 with the Stage 1.

I had scheduled it weeks ago just so I had a number to know before I started doing mods, but I figure it would be a great time to get some actual evidence. I already emailed Shiv about it a few days ago asking if there was any "final" version or an actual 93 version before I dyno'd it and got no response.

So what's better than an actual dyno!

Darkrune 08-14-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JermMX5 (Post 2961506)
That's coming on wednesday, I have 4 dyno pulls that I'll do 2 as a baseline, and 2 with the Stage 1.

I had scheduled it weeks ago just so I had a number to know before I started doing mods, but I figure it would be a great time to get some actual evidence. I already emailed Shiv about it a few days ago asking if there was any "final" version or an actual 93 version before I dyno'd it and got no response.

So what's better than an actual dyno!

Are you planning on doing stage 2 tests with a uel header? Then we could get apples to apples.

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JermMX5 08-14-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkrune (Post 2961667)
Are you planning on doing stage 2 tests with a uel header? Then we could get apples to apples.

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If anyone gets me a header in the next 2 days to put on and try xD

Sadly I'm doing a bonestock baseline, and then the Stage 1. The main point of the dyno was to get just a bonestock base at my local dyno so that when I do go UEL header eventually I can compare the gains. But since I don't need all 4 runs for a baseline I figured I'd try the stage 1.

Dexter 08-15-2017 01:23 AM

OpenFlash Tablet: OTS v3.0 tune files ready for beta testing
 
I'm lurking and watching with interest. I have a 2017 BRZ that I've been thinking about tuning with OFT. It's likely i'll be keeping the car mostly stock for warranty reasons. OFT appeals to me because I can flash back, and it's very difficult for them to tell it's been modified. So long as there's some kind of gains to be had. I'm not all that fussed about getting much extra peak power, If I got some improved torque in the dip i'd be happy, and perhaps some improved throttle response.

The only issue is i'm from Australia, and perhaps this is incorrect, but I've been told our fuel is slightly different to the US fuel. The way I understood it, is what you guys refer to as 93, we know as 98 RON. But someone has suggested this isn't necessarily the case.

JermMX5 08-16-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter (Post 2962144)
I'm lurking and watching with interest. I have a 2017 BRZ that I've been thinking about tuning with OFT. It's likely i'll be keeping the car mostly stock for warranty reasons. OFT appeals to me because I can flash back, and it's very difficult for them to tell it's been modified. So long as there's some kind of gains to be had. I'm not all that fussed about getting much extra peak power, If I got some improved torque in the dip i'd be happy, and perhaps some improved throttle response.

The only issue is i'm from Australia, and perhaps this is incorrect, but I've been told our fuel is slightly different to the US fuel. The way I understood it, is what you guys refer to as 93, we know as 98 RON. But someone has suggested this isn't necessarily the case.

Everything I've hear is that 98 RON is somewhere between US 91 and 93, so you should be good to go, especially becuase of the reply I actually finally got from Shiv:

"At this time, the OTS tune files for 2017 cars are for 91-94oct. You will see that the tune is not too conservative for 93oct. We do have E85 tunes ready to go which will be more aggressive than the gasoline tune. Do you have access to E85?"

If anyone knows where I can get E85 near South New Hampshire/Boston area then I might have to try this out for autocross

And today's DYNO DAY!! Will the stock tires hold onto the dyno well enough or do I need to swap to my RE-71rs?

Dexter 08-16-2017 10:00 AM

I believe there's E85 available about 5min walk from my house. So that's also an option for me.

Did he give any indication of when the tunes will be officially released?

Good luck with the dyno. Eager to see your results, and how much difference a tune makes on a stock 17 car.



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SuperTom 08-16-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasonb (Post 2961473)
I wanted to do a uel header and a tune. Maybe I'll just do an axleback exhaust just to gain some nice noise instead. At least until all the 2017 tunes have been figured out.



I think you guys who are on the fence all need to email bomb him. With something like "I'm interested in your OFT but the 93 octane tunes are taking to long for the 17's. If nothing comes out soon I am considering ----- tune as I have headers on my car and need a tune".
Fear of losing $$$$$$$$ may be the only thing to get Shiv off his @ss and complete this.

timmydatooth 08-16-2017 12:47 PM

I think we at least deserve an update on where they are at with the new tunes. If it's gonna take a little while longer fine, just don't go completely ghost on your loyal, paying, customers. :iono:

Nayte86 08-16-2017 01:06 PM

Got this response 7/26
"Currently running the E85 in our test car. I’d like to get a few hundred more miles of driving before we release it to the public. Just playing it safe :)
Best Regards,
Shiv Pathak

bfrank1972 08-16-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by timmydatooth (Post 2963092)
I think we at least deserve an update on where they are at with the new tunes. If it's gonna take a little while longer fine, just don't go completely ghost on your loyal, paying, customers. :iono:

I get your point - but nobody else provides free ongoing tuning support and upgrades to their 'loyal' customers. So you don't 'deserve' anything. He could just stop altogether and people would still buy his OFT, so just be happy (and patient) :)

JermMX5 08-16-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2963130)
I get your point - but nobody else provides free ongoing tuning support and upgrades to their 'loyal' customers. So you don't 'deserve' anything. He could just stop altogether and people would still buy his OFT, so just be happy (and patient) :)

The people who specifically ordered it after him saying it would include OTS 3.0 93 tunes for 2017 cars do in fact "deserve" an update, or the product they purchased.

OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 2963009)
I think you guys who are on the fence ..."I'm interested in your OFT but the 93 octane tunes are taking to long for the 17's. If nothing comes out soon I am considering ----- tune as I have headers on my car and need a tune".

If you're looking for a stock tune or for a catted or catless header tune for 2017, just mail openflash and ask. Stage 1 and Stage 2 tunes are available.
This forum is not the interface to reach customer support.

You'll find in an old thread that the old tunes were labeled as 91 and 93 but should have been labeled standard and aggressive related to top end timing differences. 2017 tunes are not labeled for 91 or 93 but use Stage1, Stage2 and Stage2+.

bfrank1972 08-16-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JermMX5 (Post 2963140)
The people who specifically ordered it after him saying it would include OTS 3.0 93 tunes for 2017 cars do in fact "deserve" an update, or the product they purchased.

Ah sorry, was unaware of the 17 cars not having any tunes available.

OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2963161)
Ah sorry, was unaware of the 17 cars not having any tunes available.


Maybe people have missed the several posts saying to contact openflash for 2017 tunes. It works on mine.

Teseo 08-16-2017 03:10 PM

Too much fuzz about tunes for '17. The shit is the launch of better tune for catless header, regardless UEL or EL. I really hope for more torque on midrange (less torque dip)

OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2963222)
Too much fuzz about tunes for '17. The shit is the launch of better tune for catless header, regardless UEL or EL. I really hope for more torque on midrange (less torque dip)


Oh. It sounded like people were thinking 2017 tunes and catless header tunes were not available from openflash when they already are.
OFH and OFT bumped up torque to make the dip a non-issue on my old '13. The 2017 tune improves throttle response in the dip on the new car. A 2017 UEL tune is available but I don't have a catless header for the new car yet.

JermMX5 08-16-2017 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeGuitar (Post 2963154)
If you're looking for a stock tune or for a catted or catless header tune for 2017, just mail openflash and ask. Stage 1 and Stage 2 tunes are available.
This forum is not the interface to reach customer support.

You'll find in an old thread that the old tunes were labeled as 91 and 93 but should have been labeled standard and aggressive related to top end timing differences. 2017 tunes are not labeled for 91 or 93 but use Stage1, Stage2 and Stage2+.

I have the tunes, but there are issues with it. For one the MAF voltage comes up at 0 on the OFT no matter what, so no maf scaling. And the tunes run at 11.02 AFR on a bone stock setup...

Dyno day is done, making a new thread for it. I got the results that I thought I would.

OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JermMX5 (Post 2963256)
I have the tunes, but there are issues with it. For one the MAF voltage comes up at 0 on the OFT no matter what, so no maf scaling. And the tunes run at 11.02 AFR on a bone stock setup...



Dyno day is done, making a new thread for it. I got the results that I thought I would.


Looking forward to see the dyno!

Also, what did openflash say when you directly sent them info about the maf voltage? I should take a look at mine too.

SuperTom 08-16-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeGuitar (Post 2963181)
Maybe people have missed the several posts saying to contact openflash for 2017 tunes. It works on mine.



We haven't missed you have missed. We have already been emailing him. He is only send out 91 octane tunes (Level 1, and 2+). There is no 93 octane optimized tune. Also comparing the tunes he is sending out are the same as the beta tunes out months ago. No real changes or advancements have been made in months. This is why we are getting P*ssed off.
Also his websites Advertises ready for 2017 tunes but they are not listed for download. Shouldn't have to wait a week to get a reply they should just be listed. He started this thread so he should be checking in from time to time.

Tuxedo Tony 08-16-2017 05:38 PM

If they're sending you beta tunes, then those are the tunes they're comfortable distributing. They stated months ago they're working on the 2017 tunes and needed people to test them. Would you like a tune that is unfinished and could cause serious damage to your new ride?. If your unhappy return the product and get a refund.


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nunonuna 08-16-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nayte86 (Post 2963111)
Got this response 7/26
"Currently running the E85 in our test car. I’d like to get a few hundred more miles of driving before we release it to the public. Just playing it safe :)
Best Regards,
Shiv Pathak

This confirms that 3.0v includes E85 tune. Yay!!:D

Somerandom18 08-16-2017 07:42 PM

If anyone wants the stage 1 93oct K00C tune send me a PM.

JermMX5 08-16-2017 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nunonuna (Post 2963409)
This confirms that 3.0v includes E85 tune. Yay!!:D

Oh ya, Shiv sent me the Stage 2+ e85 tune today and when I responded that I didn't have a header he said:

"Yep, won’t be a problem. All our E85 maps have been intended for Stage 2 cars. They work just fine on stock cars as well. Not fully optimized but still a noticeably stronger than gasoline tunes."

Dexter 08-16-2017 07:57 PM

Thanks for the updates Jerm


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Darkrune 08-16-2017 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2963130)
I get your point - but nobody else provides free ongoing tuning support and upgrades to their 'loyal' customers. So you don't 'deserve' anything. He could just stop altogether and people would still buy his OFT, so just be happy (and patient) :)

Cobb does. This is why cost for these things are high, because they are supported for so long.

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SuperTom 08-16-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 2963416)
If anyone wants the stage 1 93oct K00C tune send me a PM.

That's cool! hopefully stage 2 93 oct is coming next so I can stop bitching

Somerandom18 08-16-2017 11:12 PM

Yeah need 93 Oct stage 2. I asked for it and they sent me stage 2 91 and said it can compensate for 93 Oct.

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OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 11:21 PM

2017 Dyno numbers are out!
 
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Originally Posted by nunonuna (Post 2963409)
This confirms that 3.0v includes E85 tune. Yay!!:D

2017 dyno numbers comparing stock vs. stage 1, stage 2 and E85.
Attachment 157191

invaliduser 08-16-2017 11:24 PM

Where did this come from?

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OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by invaliduser (Post 2963522)
Where did this come from?

It was posted to FRS/BRZ/GT86 Enthusiasts on FB. I cross posted here in case anyone missed it.:bellyroll::paddle::wub:

Teseo 08-16-2017 11:51 PM

Looks promising, wonder if it was on 93 oct

OrangeGuitar 08-16-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2963533)
Looks promising, wonder if it was on 93 oct

Nope. The numbers were hit on 91 (other than the e85 run) all on the same car. If your 91 gas causes knock, you can try 93 but it looks like it is not needed for these numbers. :cheers:

Teseo 08-17-2017 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeGuitar (Post 2963535)
Nope. The numbers were hit on 91 (other than the e85 run) all on the same car. If your 91 gas causes knock, you can try 93 but it looks like it is not needed for these numbers. :cheers:

Good to know, i have 93 oct non-ethanol available

Sam.Vera 08-17-2017 02:47 AM

I have a 2016 FRS. Are the 2017 tunes not compatible with the 2013-2016 models? Or do these tunes work for all years?

Nayte86 08-17-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JermMX5 (Post 2963417)
Oh ya, Shiv sent me the Stage 2+ e85 tune today and when I responded that I didn't have a header he said:

"Yep, won’t be a problem. All our E85 maps have been intended for Stage 2 cars. They work just fine on stock cars as well. Not fully optimized but still a noticeably stronger than gasoline tunes."

Any way you can pm the 2017 tunes ? Mainly the e85

JermMX5 08-17-2017 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeGuitar (Post 2963525)
It was posted to FRS/BRZ/GT86 Enthusiasts on FB. I cross posted here in case anyone missed it.:bellyroll::paddle::wub:

Was it mentioned what mods were done such as for Stage 2+? If that's 191whp with just a OFH then they might have a customer for a header. If I can throw an OP, high flow cat, and intake and get 195-200 then I'm sold.

SuperTom 08-17-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam.Vera (Post 2963597)
I have a 2016 FRS. Are the 2017 tunes not compatible with the 2013-2016 models? Or do these tunes work for all years?

No 2017 seems to have different coding architecture than the older models

JermMX5 08-17-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JermMX5 (Post 2963652)
Was it mentioned what mods were done such as for Stage 2+? If that's 191whp with just a OFH then they might have a customer for a header. If I can throw an OP, high flow cat, and intake and get 195-200 then I'm sold.

Nevermind I found it on FB, here is what the dynos were done with:

Quote:

Hi guys-- Here's what many of you have been waiting for :) 2017 86 (6MT) dyno results comparing stock to the newest OTS version of Stage 1, Stage 2+ and Stage 2+ E85. All tested on the same car/same dyno.
Stage 1= Stock car with OFT only on 91oct
Stage 2+= Add OpenFlash Header 3 (OFH3) on 91oct
Stage 2+ E85= As above but running straight E85
The newest 2017 OTS tune files are now available upon request to all OFT customers. Email sales@openflashperformane and provide your calibration ID (either K00C or K00D).

Jasonb 08-17-2017 11:03 AM

Still very decent results. I'll be buying an OFT and ofh2 or 3 very soon.


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