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Swede 04-17-2017 10:37 AM

DD and track
 
Hey guys.

Im interested in building a GT86/BRZ towards track but still be able to daily drive it.

Is there any difference between GT86 and the BRZ that makes any of them the better choice? Price is lower on BRZ here in Sweden atleast.

What are the first mods to be doing? Exhaust, brakes, wheels, coils?

I don't want massive wings and bolts everywhere , i want a clean build so i don't think Rocket bunny stuff is for me. Some attachment to the front and back spoiler and a smaller wing is ok.

When it comes to power i would like to go the Cosworth path because the warranty, good enough or will it be to weak you think? I still want a reliable car.

Appreciate all the inputs from you all.

Tcoat 04-17-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Swede (Post 2892987)
Hey guys.

Im interested in building a GT86/BRZ towards track but still be able to daily drive it.

Is there any difference between GT86 and the BRZ that makes any of them the better choice? Price is lower on BRZ here in Sweden atleast.

What are the first mods to be doing? Exhaust, brakes, wheels, coils?

I don't want massive wings and bolts everywhere , i want a clean build so i don't think Rocket bunny stuff is for me. Some attachment to the front and back spoiler and a smaller wing is ok.

When it comes to power i would like to go the Cosworth path because the warranty, good enough or will it be to weak you think? I still want a reliable car.

Appreciate all the inputs from you all.


Buy either.
Track it stock until your driving skill exceeds the cars abilities.
Start "upgrading" things when you know what you actually need to improve.
Check your local laws and requirements. Europe has some very specific things you can and can not do.

Riftur 04-17-2017 10:52 AM

If money is no issue and your buying the car and FI brand new. check out the edelbrock SC. they take over the warranty of the car. I would still read what they cover and all. Also I heard they are reliable. Not cheap though.

dattran86 04-17-2017 10:54 AM

My car is my only car, I DD and Track, Auto X it.

Here's a list I think the car definitely need.

- Brake Pads, Brake Fluid, Steel Braided Line (Not really a must)
- Light weight Wheel and Ultra Performance Summer tires (Hancook V12, Indy 500, MPSS)

and...that's basically all you need to have a ton of fun on the track or spirited driving.

What you dont need as a reliable daily is a ANY kind of Force Induction. Once you go into turbo land..you will need a second car, keep it stock keep it reliable.

If you're searching for more power get a faster car (350Z, 370Z), dont spend alot of money for a little bit of power and a lot of headache.

The twin is a momentum light weight RWD Japanese sport car.

Tcoat 04-17-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2892998)
If money is no issue and your buying the car and FI brand new. check out the edelbrock SC. they take over the warranty of the car. I would still read what they cover and all. Also I heard they are reliable. Not cheap though.

He is in Sweden. I don't believe the Edelbrock is even legal there much less warrantied.

Swede 04-17-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2893001)
He is in Sweden. I don't believe the Edelbrock is even legal there much less warrantied.

I would say thats true but the Cosworth kit would be ok if its installed by Toyota. Atleast thats what they told me.

Tcoat 04-17-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Swede (Post 2893025)
I would say thats true but the Cosworth kit would be ok if its installed by Toyota. Atleast thats what they told me.

Possibly. I don't know what the requirements are there just that you guys have a pile of them.

stevesnj 04-17-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2892997)
Buy either.
Track it stock until your driving skill exceeds the cars abilities.
Start "upgrading" things when you know what you actually need to improve.

Good advice here, I started to take my 2016 to the track when the car was a year old, I learned quick that the stock brake pads are not great for the track and I found great pads for street and track, Winmax W2, and they take the the abuse on the track. I also started outdriving the stock Prius tires, I ended up quickly being faster than my tires. I bought Nitto NT01 for the track and will swap them on the car at the track. I'll be able to better understand what I will need next. I DD the car so I just compromise parts for comfort and drivability and track performance, so I have TRD lowering springs and TRD exhaust also. I don't need coilovers since I don't plan to put wide tires on. Little things that can make a moderate performance increase without drastically changing the stock setup.

CatDaddysBBQ 04-17-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2892997)
Track it stock until your driving skill exceeds the cars abilities.
Start "upgrading" things when you know what you actually need to improve.

THIS.

PetrolioBenzina 04-17-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2892997)
Buy either.
Track it stock until your driving skill exceeds the cars abilities.
Start "upgrading" things when you know what you actually need to improve.
Check your local laws and requirements. Europe has some very specific things you can and can not do.

If people did that, half the aftermarket would disappear.

Tcoat 04-17-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina (Post 2893066)
If people did that, half the aftermarket would disappear.

So would the forum since there would be far fewer screwed up cars and people would actually understand what the changes they were making to their car were doing to it BEFORE they change things.


Cosmetic mods can be reasonably planned in advance. I knew before buying the car that I wanted it lower, louder and longer (Spoiler on the trunk lip) and that is what I bought.
I at first fell for the "needs more power" statements and planned to SC it as soon as warranty was up. Then I actually got and drove it and couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about since it has plenty of power for MY driving needs. Saved myself some cash and potential headaches. Performance mods need to be determined by each individual after they have driven the car and decided what needs to change (if anything) to meet their driving style not what others have felt they needed to do. There are many modified cars that don't get used anywhere near their potential but are simply Instagram likes fodder.

imnotsureaboutbrz 04-17-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur (Post 2892998)
check out the edelbrock SC. they take over the warranty of the car. I would still read what they cover and all.

I did not know this... *heads over to edelbrock*

strat61caster 04-17-2017 05:12 PM

Everything you need to know is in here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25485

Brake pads and brake fluid, no need if you haven't tracked before, work up them.

Tires once the OE ones are gone, put all your money into seat time, maintenance and consumables. After that it's all compromising daily comfort for track performance.

hpde_addict 04-17-2017 05:23 PM

External oil cooler and maybe heat shield tape on the ignition coils.


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