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JPRodney 04-11-2017 11:02 AM

Camber Issues
 
Hey Guys,

Since this is my first car and all, I'm learning slowly but surely.

I took my frs into the dealership for an alignment after lowering the car on BC coils. I came up with some weird results in my mind.

I have
0/-0.05 toe in the front
0.05/0.05 toe in the rear

Then it gets weird.
-1.10/-0.90 camber in the front
-3.20/-2.70 camber in the rear ?

The dealership didn't change my camber at all, fixed my toe and then still charged me the $100.

What do I need to fix this problem?

Yanbags 04-11-2017 11:15 AM

Aftermarket rear lower control arms w/ camber adjustment. You lowering the suspension affects the rear camber but it can't be corrected because there is no adjustment available with the factory arms.

yelsew 04-11-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JPRodney (Post 2889337)

lowered the car on BC coils.

Then it gets weird.
-1.10/-0.90 camber in the front
-3.20/-2.70 camber in the rear ?

What do I need to fix this problem?

The easiest way to get the rear camber in check after lowering the car is to install adjustable rear lower control arms. I have the basic SPC ones which are pretty inexpensive. If you would like to even out the camber in the front and maybe dial a little more in, try out front camber bolts. These will be the cheapest options to get your camber adjustable.

JPRodney 04-11-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by yelsew (Post 2889351)
The easiest way to get the rear camber in check after lowering the car is to install adjustable rear lower control arms. I have the basic SPC ones which are pretty inexpensive. If you would like to even out the camber in the front and maybe dial a little more in, try out front camber bolts. These will be the cheapest options to get your camber adjustable.

Thanks for the quick reply, I guess I'll have to order some arms and bolts asap. I'm trying to correct the camber because having over -3 in the back is off spec. Would the lower control arms be enough to fix this issue?

driggity 04-11-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JPRodney (Post 2889373)
Thanks for the quick reply, I guess I'll have to order some arms and bolts asap. I'm trying to correct the camber because having over -3 in the back is off spec. Would the lower control arms be enough to fix this issue?



Rear arms should be sufficient to get the rear end where you want it.


Did you get the BCs without front camber plates or are there plates that the dealership just didn't adjust.


If you care about performance then "spec" isn't necessarily what you should be looking for. Also dealerships usually aren't the best place to go for a performance oriented alignment.

markitect 04-11-2017 12:48 PM

The SPC Arms are supposed to be able to correct +/- 2 degrees. The aluminum ones (lots of people that make them) provide more adjustability, but at a higher price.

Yanbags 04-11-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by driggity (Post 2889418)
Rear arms should be sufficient to get the rear end where you want it.


Did you get the BCs without front camber plates or are there plates that the dealership just didn't adjust.


If you care about performance then "spec" isn't necessarily what you should be looking for. Also dealerships usually aren't the best place to go for a performance oriented alignment.

This is a good point. What's your main purpose for the car? Daily driving? Will the car see any track events? Autocross? What tires do you have/use?

If daily, I would probably do something like -2 front camber, -1 to -1.5 rear camber. Will transform the car from stock spec and not really affect tire life.

On my track setup, I run -3F, -2R on street tires (Bridgestone RE71R).

smg1138 04-11-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanbags (Post 2889458)
On my track setup, I run -3F, -2R on street tires (Bridgestone RE71R).

lol

Yanbags 04-11-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138 (Post 2889545)
lol

DOT says they are hehehe :lol: :burnrubber:

JPRodney 04-11-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanbags (Post 2889458)
This is a good point. What's your main purpose for the car? Daily driving? Will the car see any track events? Autocross? What tires do you have/use?

If daily, I would probably do something like -2 front camber, -1 to -1.5 rear camber. Will transform the car from stock spec and not really affect tire life.

On my track setup, I run -3F, -2R on street tires (Bridgestone RE71R).

It's my daily car and I will keep it that way, until I feel comfortable tracking the car a few years down the road. I believe I will need the camber arms anyways because the camber is really off from the left and right side. I was looking at Megan Racing; because I know I could get them before the weekend and having everything on, ready for an alignment by Saturday.

Also yes I do have camber plates for the front, just not the rear.

Yanbags 04-12-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JPRodney (Post 2889715)
It's my daily car and I will keep it that way, until I feel comfortable tracking the car a few years down the road. I believe I will need the camber arms anyways because the camber is really off from the left and right side. I was looking at Megan Racing; because I know I could get them before the weekend and having everything on, ready for an alignment by Saturday.

Also yes I do have camber plates for the front, just not the rear.

Yeah, so no need to go super aggressive on the alignment. Just even camber left to right, 0 toe (some toe-in in the rear is good for stability), and you'll be A+. Honestly I'd probably just do -1.5F and -1R camber.

wparsons 04-12-2017 02:31 PM

There's no camber adjustment stock, so I bet they didn't even look under the hood to see the camber plates in the front.

Skip the camber bolts since you already have plates, and get some rear LCA's.

JPRodney 04-12-2017 04:01 PM

Thanks guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I ordered some LCA today and hopefully receive them tomorrow.

fazlook 04-13-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JPRodney (Post 2890359)
Thanks guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I ordered some LCA today and hopefully receive them tomorrow.

I am having the exact same problem as yours :) what did you order ? and from where ?


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