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nextcar 03-22-2017 12:38 PM

There must be a reason...
 
...but I can't figure it out.

Why are there two totally different/incompatible styles of lock cylinders used on the door and trunk locks?

It appears that base models use standard keys and lock cylinders (though the key obviously has an immobilizer chip for the ignition).

Cars with "smart entry" use laser cut keys (much more expensive, and requiring different lock cylinders).

Just something to keep in mind if you swap parts between cars with and without smart entry - the lock cylinders cannot be rekeyed - the mechanisms must be swapped out or replaced.

On a car as cost conscious and relatively low production as this, I cannot fathom the justification for two different lock sets!:iono:

Tcoat 03-22-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 2877285)
...but I can't figure it out.

Why are there two totally different/incompatible styles of lock cylinders used on the door and trunk locks?

It appears that base models use standard keys and lock cylinders (though the key obviously has an immobilizer chip for the ignition).

Cars with "smart entry" use laser cut keys (much more expensive, and requiring different lock cylinders).

Just something to keep in mind if you swap parts between cars with and without smart entry - the lock cylinders cannot be rekeyed - the mechanisms must be swapped out or replaced.

On a car as cost conscious and relatively low production as this, I cannot fathom the justification for two different lock sets!:iono:


Locks are parts bin pieces so the cost is minimal since they are spread across all the models. They use the laser cut pull out key in the keyless fobs to keep the size down. If they used a full size key inside the fob it has to be about an inch longer than it is now.

ZZT86 03-22-2017 09:37 PM

Valet parking ?

humfrz 03-23-2017 02:09 AM

Because that's the way we always done it.

Back-in-the-day we had two keys for a car, one for the ignition and one for the trunk. The one for the ignition had a square-ish head; the one for the trunk had a round-ish head. Get it .. ??

Maybe this story will help explain.

"The wife sent this old boy to the store for a ham. After he bought it, she asked him why he didn’t have the butcher cut off the end of the ham. “This old boy” asked his wife why she wanted the end cut off. She replied that her mother had always done it that way and that was reason enough for her. Since the wife’s mother was visiting, they asked her why she always cut off the end of the ham. Mother replied that this was the way her mother did it; Mother, daughter and “this old boy” then decided to call grandmother and solve this three-generation mystery. Grandmother promptly replied that she cut the end of the ham because her roaster was too small to cook it in one piece."

Now do you get it .....??

(it must be time for my medications)

@Tcoat or @Ultramaroon will splain it.




humfrz

Clipdat 03-23-2017 03:17 AM

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@humfrz's "medications"..

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2877768)

(it must be time for my medications)

@Tcoat or @Ultramaroon will splain it.


humfrz



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