STi/BRZ PP Brembo Brake Pad info (according to dealer)
 

So I went into my local stealership to show off the car I bought in Washington that they said they couldn't get, but while I was there I asked the parts guy to check and confirm the similarities in the brake pads between the STi Brembos and those on the 2017 BRZ PP models.

From what he saw, the part numbers for the rear calipers are the same. i.e. any aftermarket/performance rear pad for a STi will work for us. But...

He said that the part numbers are different for the front pads... He said that it doesn't necessarily mean that the pads aren't the same size but maybe just different compounds from the factory?

If anyone has real life info on this please add, I know autocross season has started for some. but I still have a month or two to break in the car and get summer tires and brakes...

I've been working with G-Loc to get pads for my BRZ and they suggested the GP1001 shape pads for the front axle and the GP961 shape for the rears. CSG confirmed those numbers as well. I should have them this weekend (ordered yesterday) so I'll update with more information then.

Yep @mjanmohammad is correct. I have the G-Locs as well, but have not installed them as of yet. And it wont be this weekend either since I am helping a friend install a DP and AOS onto his STI.

But the front calipers are the same size as the STI. But the piston sizing is different. I don't see why that would change the pad the size though.

The backing plates are the same between the GLocs I bought late last Summer for my now-traded STI and the backing plates for my new MY17 PPkg BRZ and they fit the calipers perfectly. Talked with GLoc today to confirm

For those interested in the G-LOC pads on BRZ PP or 86 High PP, we have added them to our website. Please contact us for more info and selection specific to your application. We have experience with every compound that G-LOC offers. :thumbup:

Do you know if Ferodo has a DS2500 pad that will fit the PP front brakes? Absolutely fell in love with those pads on my '13.

Whats your opinion on the Winmax W3 vs the equivalent G-Loc pad? My car is a daily driver and autocross car, and I don't care about brake dust, I just want a low noise/squeal pad with good stopping power.

We'll add to the website once we verify the part number. :)

Winmax and G-LOC brake pads are formulated differently. When comparing the street and autocross use, they are very comparable in terms of good bite, modulation, and thermal capacity. Noise/squeal will always be a factor in performance pads, but can be reduced with proper bed-in. When you're ready, we can discuss what setup to go with to suit your needs. :thumbup:

I installed my G-Locs this morning at the office before anyone else arrived. They fit well, and swapping pads on the Brembos are a cinch. I spend more time lifting the car and removing wheels, than swapping pads.

They are bedded, but I have not had time to romp on them yet. But good bite so far. I will report back when I have had time to play around.

Which G-Loc set did you choose?

I went with the R6. Maybe a bit overkill for street, but this car may make it up to a an AX or two. Right now they over power my tires, which are 225 square, BF Goodrich Comp 2 A/S. They are good aggressive all seasons, but no match for the Brembos with G-Loc R6 pads. However, some Re71s are likely around the corner.

600 miles on my PP, and the stock pads are dusty as hell. Mostly canyon driving so far. The front and rear wheels were caked pretty bad. Any experience with dust levels on aftermarket pads? Should I just assume things get worse from here?

brake pads and brake dust, amazing.:bonk:

stupid question but would the Brembo brake pads (for the 2017 BRZ) fit on a 2013 FR-S?

No, they are completely different sizes. The Brembo Caliper is much larger than the stock caliper.

You know low dust levels are a selling point for performance pads right?

Maybe at O'Reilley's.

I probably should have worded that different, if I were to walk into a Subaru dealership and order Brembo brake pads and calipers, would they fit on the FR-S?

Yes they would fit on your car, but the real question is, will your wheel clear them? If you are running stock wheels then the answer is no.

not only this, but you would need the Disks too... IIRC @CounterSpace Garage has a Brembo kit, that would probably be cheaper in the long run

Please contact us if any of you are interested in the Brembo GT kit. The rotors that come with this Brembo GT kit are high quality Brembo discs, which has a different formulation than you standard disc. :thumbup:

Are the rotors from the CSG kit swappable with the OEM brembos?

The CSGxBrembo GT kit comes with 326x30 rotors that are the same size as the STI, so it's basically similar to the BRZ PP OEM Brembos. This GT kit does come with Brembo rotors that have a different material composition than your standard replacement rotors, hence why the performance and longevity of the rotor is different compared to the others.

I'm used to running EBC yellows on my previous cars. I'm loving the PP brakes so far on the street, but haven't gotten to tracking them yet.

How sufficient are the stock pads on track? Should I stick with the stock pads for main DD use with occasional weekend autox/track days? What pads serve the same purpose but are better than the stock pads?

Winmax W3 are available for the performance package brakes now. I'd like to hear about other choices, too.

As far as I can tell from checking a few catalogs they use the same shape as the sti brembos. d1001 front d961 rear.

Ferodo 1562 / 3067
Hawk HB453x.585 / HB180x.560

I know this isnt really on pad topic however jimmy from vex did a fantastic write up a while ago on wsc about why sti brakes (like the entire swap) isnt a good idea

CLICK HERE

@jamal - thanks for the info. RallySport Direct confirmed the Ferodo DS2500 part numbers you listed will work for the PP brakes. Total was $359 including free shipping.
@trippinbillies40 - I know you posted some time ago about the DS2500. So yes, they are available for the '17 Brembo PP brakes.

I contacted 86Speed about ordering the Winmax W3. They were not in stock. 86Speed was nice enough to call Winmax for me, and they have a couple sets of rears, but no front pads to send to dealers right now.

Yes, I run DS2500 on mine. Anything that fits an '04 STI *should* fit this car as the OE pads are the same part number from Subaru.

That article references the OE WRX STI Brembo brake kit swap which has incorrect brake bias for the twins, hence why it's a bad idea for our cars.

The BRZ PP Brembo brake kit being discussed in this thread (and also the CSG Brembo GT kit) uses the same rotors and a similar caliper as the WRX STI but the calipers have adjusted piston sizes to provide correct brake bias for the twins so they will work fine.

@trippinbillies40 - how do you like the DS2500 pads? Mine are on the way!

I loved them on my '13 FRS, and they've been great for street and autocross duty on my BRZ, but I really left the track feeling like I should just stick with stock pads for street and autocross duty and swap in some buck-nasty track pads for HPDE's. That having been said, the Ferodos didn't fade on me, just didn't have loads of bite to overpower the stickier tires. Overall, they're probably the best "all around" pad you can get IMO.

while i appreciate the attempt at correction the first several words in my original post were pretty clear as to what my attempt was, just a quick little bit of brake knowledge that i was hoping to pass on in a brake conversation.

More like a did you know.... But again thanks next time an :offtopic: would suffice .

SO any pads that fit an STI from the last 10 model years will fit the PP brakes? I am having trouble finding pads that say they fit the BRZ with PP. So it would be nice if I could also look for STI pads instead.