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XK4 03-21-2017 09:02 AM

Premium for Premium
 
What premium over regular are you paying for premium fuel? In my little town the premium ranges from $0.46 to $0.60. This seems a bit much.

why? 03-21-2017 09:47 AM

unfortunately that's normal now. Stations are doing everything they can to get regular fuel as cheap as possible, while refineries are doing the same, so everything else costs more.

Tcoat 03-21-2017 10:34 AM

Regular $3.73 - $4.00
Premium $4.00 to $5.00


When I bought the car premium was $6.00 or more.


Stop whining.

jasonojordan 03-21-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by XK4 (Post 2876375)
What premium over regular are you paying for premium fuel? In my little town the premium ranges from $0.46 to $0.60. This seems a bit much.

If you think thats bad. There have been stations I have stopped at here in northern Minnesota that are not even 93 but 91 and they were charging over $1 a gallon more for premium then regular.

Gotta pay to play my friend. The other option is buy the required hardware to run e85. Don't know how much you drive a year but my guess is the difference in savings in gas would take several years to break even.

Somerandom18 03-21-2017 11:02 AM

Think my shell is 80 over. Don't pay attention much tbh.

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Silver Cervy 03-21-2017 11:14 AM

If you're talking about 93 octane then it costs $2.70/gallon average around here in NC.

XK4 03-21-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2876416)
If you think thats bad. There have been stations I have stopped at here in northern Minnesota that are not even 93 but 91 and they were charging over $1 a gallon more for premium then regular.

Gotta pay to play my friend. The other option is buy the required hardware to run e85. Don't know how much you drive a year but my guess is the difference in savings in gas would take several years to break even.

Sadly, I don't have the option of E85. Not one station in town carries it.

Cole 03-21-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2876409)
Regular $3.73 - $4.00
Premium $4.00 to $5.00


When I bought the car premium was $6.00 or more.


Stop whining.

Was going to say this. I paid $4.70/gallon last time I filled up

carbonBLUE 03-22-2017 01:38 AM

man thats crazy, here in texas its 2.50 a gallon for premium

SCQTT 03-22-2017 02:16 AM

Ohio, Shell, today 209.9 (87) 279.9 (93)

spike021 03-22-2017 02:17 AM

Usually around here it's 20-40 cents more from what I've seen.

Kaotic Lazagna 03-22-2017 02:38 AM

On our cars, it's about 2 to 4 bucks more a tank than regular. Is that really too much? Think about it, most people here will spend 2 bucks more on a cup of Starbucks than say, McD's coffee everyday.

At least you guys probably get 93 octane up there. We're stuck with 91 here in Cali, and 87 out here is around $2.899 already.

serialk11r 03-22-2017 04:40 AM

Wait 40 cents? I feel like it's usually 10 cents more for 89, then another 10 cents more for 91. If the difference is bigger than that, I refuse to use that gas station.

Recently here in the SF Bay it's been around 2.8/gal for 87 at a cheaper station, and 3 for 91. As long as it's under 4, it's cheap in my book, but I still hunt for cheap gas to not reward the stations that try to gouge you.

soulreapersteve 03-22-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 2877088)
Wait 40 cents? I feel like it's usually 10 cents more for 89, then another 10 cents more for 91. If the difference is bigger than that, I refuse to use that gas station.

Recently here in the SF Bay it's been around 2.8/gal for 87 at a cheaper station, and 3 for 91. As long as it's under 4, it's cheap in my book, but I still hunt for cheap gas to not reward the stations that try to gouge you.

This is what I do.

Less than 2 miles from my house is a station that charges 3.50. I've seen others charge almost 4 (not very common but I've seen a handful).

Travel 7 more miles to neighboring city and its 2.89! :o

Tcoat 03-22-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2876699)
Was going to say this. I paid $4.70/gallon last time I filled up

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 2877030)
man thats crazy, here in texas its 2.50 a gallon for premium

There is huge irony for us Canadians in this situation.


Back a few years ago when gas was still expensive we could easily pay $6 to $6.50 a gallon (price converted from our liters) but the Canadian dollar was at par or even a few cents stronger than the US one. Then the bottom dropped out of the oil prices and the price of gas plunged. When the price of oil did it's nose dive the Canadian dollar went with it since much of our economy is based on oil. So now we pay $4.70 for gas but every single thing we import from the US (which is a shitload) now costs us 30% more. Personally I would much rather be paying that $6 again and not have things such as an $80 diffuser bought on Ebay end up costing me $220 by the time everything is tacked on. The cheap gas is kicking the crap out of Canada.

WolfpackS2k 03-22-2017 11:24 AM

Regular (87) around Raleigh is $2.09 - 2.25 USD.

Premium (93) is $2.75 - 2.99 USD.

Though that's just for top tier station prices, I don't put bargain basement swill into any of my cars.

mazeroni 03-22-2017 11:34 AM

$.40, typically. So like $4 more a fill up, and $16 more a month. I could bring my own lunch twice a month and cover the extra cost without any other change to my lifestyle.

But I budget for gas with all of my other expensive. When gas was around $5, I was more careful about my driving habits and thought about the cost more, also I was earning a lot less. Now $3/gal doesn't phase me too much. I know we are fortunate that it is so cheap, especially when compared to California, Europe, or Canada - apparently.

strat61caster 03-22-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 2877057)
On our cars, it's about 2 to 4 bucks more a tank than regular. Is that really too much?

The point of this thread is that for some people it's apparently more like >$5 per fill up for premium over regular, and for the canucks it's closer to $8+


imo, not much you can do about it, nobody should have pretended that even a cheap sports car is terribly economical to drive, especially if you measure your economy in smiles/mile.

:burnrubber:

Cole 03-22-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2877187)
The point of this thread is that for some people it's apparently more like >$5 per fill up for premium over regular, and for the canucks it's closer to $8+


imo, not much you can do about it, nobody should have pretended that even a cheap sports car is terribly economical to drive, especially if you measure your economy in smiles/mile.

:burnrubber:

I'm not so much complaining about the price of fuel, it is what it is, and the bulk of my driving every year is in a company truck that I don't pay gas for. I've averaging like 11,500km (7145 miles) per year, so my fuel costs aren't even an issue.

I'm just blown away that some 'Muricans complain about the price of fuel, without knowing how good they have it compared to the rest of the world. You fools ever look up what fuel costs in the UK? 5.53 USD per gallon for regular. That is ridiculous

WolfpackS2k 03-22-2017 03:39 PM

I find it humorous that people in California say that the rest of us are "lucky". Maybe try to not elect tax happy politicians?

Kaotic Lazagna 03-22-2017 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2877187)
The point of this thread is that for some people it's apparently more like >$5 per fill up for premium over regular, and for the canucks it's closer to $8+


imo, not much you can do about it, nobody should have pretended that even a cheap sports car is terribly economical to drive, especially if you measure your economy in smiles/mile.

:burnrubber:

Yeah, Canadians and Europeans have it pretty bad, but then again, regular gas is also expensive, so it comes back to the actual difference between regular and premium.

To me, the twins can be pretty fuel efficient. I drive mine with fuel efficiency in mind up until I get to a corner.

strat61caster 03-22-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2877383)
I find it humorous that people in California say that the rest of us are "lucky". Maybe try to not elect tax happy politicians?

???

California is actually the most modest location in this thread with respect to the price differential between regular in premium, almost always guaranteed to be <$0.40 difference between 87 and 91 (typically it's right at $0.20-$0.30), vs. your reported numbers where you are paying ~$7 more to buy 10 gallons of premium vs. regular.

Literally nobody in this thread with a California location is complaining.

Maybe you meant Canadians?

Tcoat 03-22-2017 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2877187)
The point of this thread is that for some people it's apparently more like >$5 per fill up for premium over regular, and for the canucks it's closer to $8+


imo, not much you can do about it, nobody should have pretended that even a cheap sports car is terribly economical to drive, especially if you measure your economy in smiles/mile.

:burnrubber:

This^


My wife complained all the freakin' time about how much "more" gas cost in my car. The fact that she got 22mpg and I got 34mpg was totally beyond her comprehension. She just looked at the price at the pump. Sure I could save a few bucks but damn it then I would not like driving as much and enjoying even my long straight commute is worth the extra to me.

Tcoat 03-22-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2877412)
???

California is actually the most modest location in this thread with respect to the price differential between regular in premium, almost always guaranteed to be <$0.40 difference between 87 and 91 (typically it's right at $0.20-$0.30), vs. your reported numbers where you are paying ~$7 more to buy 10 gallons of premium vs. regular.

Literally nobody in this thread with a California location is complaining.

Maybe you meant Canadians?


Ya the high price of gas here is mostly taxes. It pays for our "free" healthcare that everybody is always so envious of.

serialk11r 03-22-2017 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2877383)
I find it humorous that people in California say that the rest of us are "lucky". Maybe try to not elect tax happy politicians?

Elect heh. Theory is nice isn't it?

What actually happens is we have a proposition on the ballot to raise income tax, raise sales tax, and...it always goes through. Kind of strange, because sales tax is regressive, which goes against the liberal goal of attacking wealth inequality.

I would love to see an economist/sociologist explain why people here seem to love more taxes lol. Certainly goes against all the textbooks I have read.

Either way, the gasoline tax is really not that bad here. It's only $1/gallon more than the cheapest parts of the country. Part of that is higher costs like real estate. The taxes add up to, I dunno, 20%? of the cost? That's not that bad. In Europe, the tax on fuel is like 200%, which actually hurts the wallet pretty bad.

Magyarman 03-22-2017 09:42 PM

In Baltimore I always buy 93 octane at Costco. Today it's$2.42/gal. and $2.12/gal. for regular. 30 cents per gallon more,not bad. Plus it's a top tier gas

Top Tier Detergent Gasoline. Top Tier Detergent Gasoline is a performance specification and trademark designed and supported by several major automakers — BMW, General Motors, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi (as of 2016).

WolfpackS2k 03-23-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 2877443)
Elect heh. Theory is nice isn't it?

What actually happens is we have a proposition on the ballot to raise income tax, raise sales tax, and...it always goes through. Kind of strange, because sales tax is regressive, which goes against the liberal goal of attacking wealth inequality.

I would love to see an economist/sociologist explain why people here seem to love more taxes lol. Certainly goes against all the textbooks I have read.

Either way, the gasoline tax is really not that bad here. It's only $1/gallon more than the cheapest parts of the country. Part of that is higher costs like real estate. The taxes add up to, I dunno, 20%? of the cost? That's not that bad. In Europe, the tax on fuel is like 200%, which actually hurts the wallet pretty bad.

That's one way of stating it. Another way would be to say it's 50% more expensive than other parts of the country, like NC for instance. $3.00/gal is a big difference than $2.00/gal :cheers:

And yes it's way worse in Europe. But they made their bed to sleep in as well. Plus everything over there is generally more dense, as (what would we consider modern) civilization and development over there mostly took place during the age of the horse, not the automobile. (Hence a car is not as much of a necessity)

finch1750 03-23-2017 04:55 PM

20-30 cents more per gallon for 91 over 87 around here. The stations that are really cheap or really expensive generally have the 30-40 cent difference. Most are just 20 cents more.

serialk11r 03-23-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2877967)
That's one way of stating it. Another way would be to say it's 50% more expensive than other parts of the country, like NC for instance. $3.00/gal is a big difference than $2.00/gal :cheers:

Median income in SF is 105k, and not far behind in the vicinity, so even with the atrocious taxes gas is pretty affordable (housing...not so much). Most people also don't drive long distances, and if they do it's to save money on rent/mortgage. Is premium gas really only 2 bucks there?

A few years ago there was a fire at the big refinery in Socal, which sent gas above $5/gal. I think the most expensive fill up I had was 4.65 for regular, which did make me want to cry a little.

DrButtDrugs 03-23-2017 08:16 PM

Shell 87: 2.30ish
Shell 93: 3.03 today

nextcar 03-23-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrButtDrugs (Post 2878205)
Shell 87: 2.30ish
Shell 93: 3.03 today

I've got nothing to add; I just wanted to be able to say that I've quoted @DrButtDrugs

Tcoat 03-24-2017 12:13 PM

Anybody else remember the near riots when gas went for .30 a gallon to .70 a gallon almost overnight in '73?

gravitylover 03-24-2017 04:58 PM

^^ Yes

The spread from regular to premium ranges from $.40/gal > $1/gal here with 93 running between $2.79<>$3.19. I've been paying approximately $2.79 for the last few weeks but got it for $2.30 in Massachusetts recently.

Magyarman 03-24-2017 11:24 PM

Yes I remember as after waiting in line at the Hess station then a week later before I needed more gas my 69 Nova started acting up. Had to rebuild the carb on my kitchen table and add a humongus gas filter before the bronzite one in the carb.Did I mention I got about a teaspoon of gritty crap out of the float bowl. It was December and cold and I had no garage and rung my knuckle when the wrench slipped.


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