Weighted Shift Knob
 

Hi Guys,

I was just wondering. What is a benefit of a weighted Shift Knob?

My friend is selling me his Raceseng Ashiko Weighted shift knob. It's very tempting. I heard it's smoother shift with it. But other than that, is just looks...

I'm also worried about the selector fork. Will it increase the wear since it's heavy?

Thanks for your help guys! :D

Benefit ....?? I don't see any benefit. It just takes more force to move it.

Looks....?? Well, it's OK ..... if it's perty to you.

Increase wear on the transmission..?? I reckon not .....unless you use it like a club to beat the transmission with .....;)


humfrz

Thank you @humfrz!

If you don't mind me asking, how long have you had your twin?

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The weight of the knob provides more inertia, which can give the smoother shift feel.

Now, if you wanna be racecar, go the other way, and make it light. That inertia can make the shift lever move, aka shift, on it's own under heavy breaking/acceleration, taking the car out of gear.

Oh no, that's one thing I don't want to happen. I use it as a daily, but get crazy with it sometimes. I won't get that then. Thank you @Gunman!

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I've had my FR-S for about 4 years.

Before that, I drove an NC Miata (5 speed) for 7 years.

I tried a weighted shift knob on the Miata ...... I didn't like it ...... it's still sitting on a shelf ...... somewhere in my garage.

NOW, here is a shift knob!

:D


humfrz

I race my FRS and use a heavy weight knob daily. It won't slip out of gear


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Lmao! That's Dope!

I've always wanted to drive a Miata. I was choosing between FRS, Miata, and GTI. FRS went through because I got a good deal on it.

I see. I'll consider it again. But I feel like weighted shift knobs tend to be pricey...

Because they feel better and make you more confident in your shifts and they use more steel


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Welp, FuelMode, I reckon if your FR-S is slipping out of gear with the OEM shift knob, either you didn't get it all the way in gear ...... or your transmission is screwed up ......;)



humfrz

Yeah my FRS have never slipped out of gear. I don't have the OEM shift knob, even with the OEM knob it didn't slip out.

Where did you get that my FRS is slipping?

DANG ........ do shift knobs take such a beating they have to be made out of steel ...... :confused0068:

I'd better go take a pill, I'm starten to sound like ol @Tcoat ...... :bow:


humfrz

You clearly are either a troll, or the least knowledgeable person in the world.

Don't worry, get the one you like. Some people will tell you that a really heavy knob will cause some extra wear by putting pressure on the shift forks. Dunno. There is also a giant thread about knobs around here somewhere.

Edit: Shift knob thread...

I split the difference with this with white delrin.
WC Lathe Werks

http://lathewerks.com/shop/trugAw7S/EliteVP-BCSS-1.JPG

Or he's making a joke. Relax a bit.

That looks pretty nice! The one I got right now is some generic carbon fiber shift knob. I got it because I was a Car noob. Thinking that it's actually heavy. Turns out, it was same weight as the OEM shift knob. Also, I forgot about our lockout. The shift knob doesn't cover it, so there's a white part of the lockout showing...

OP, how the shift knob feels depends a bit on how you shift. I tend to upshift (2, 4 and 6) by "flipping" the stick itself, not by firmly but gently grasping the throbbing knob. A heavier knob makes it easier to shift that way. Some people like a big heavy knob, some like a light one. It's OK to like them all!

Get one, just not one of the butt-plug looking knobs, unless you're into that.

LMAO! That last sentence made me laugh!

I'm seriously thinking about it. There's some pros and cons for sure. I do want that smooth shifting. I just changed to Motul. It is very smooth; however there's still that small smooth crunch when I switch to third. It's not a grind. Just that crunch feel...

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)

OP, I've had the Ashiko for a couple of years and really like it. It does seem to make shifting easier, but that could be different to everyone. The only downside is it can get hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It is metal.

OP do you have a short throw shifter installed? I find it easier to shift when paired with a slightly heavier shift knob. A slightly lighter knob gives you more feel, but I'm always afraid a Duracon knob will crack overtime.

Oh I see! Man, I'm leaning towards getting it again. I'm trying to haggle with my friend if he'd give it to me for a lower price. Lol.

He sold his BRZ, so he has a lot of extra parts...

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)

I'm neither one ......I'm just old .......lemmie alone ...... :slap:

:D


humfrz

I feel like you'd be the type of person everyone wants to hangout with in a car meet. Lol. I'd be one of your fans!

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)

Check out the knob thread, OP. There are way too many choices out there. After thinking about it a bit, a heavier knob does improve the "feel" of the shift. It's a bit more mechanical feeling moving that weight around compared to the very light stock knob. Hope that makes sense.

You implied that in post #7. Or, at least that's how I read it. :iono:


humfrz

Now we know why there will never be a turbo. The acceleration forces would be so massive that it would always pop out of 1, 3 and 5 without a co-driver to tend to the transmission. I knew mine would still be useful!

Y thank ya, Exrald ...... but I don't get to many car meets ...... they are usually during my nap time or after my bedtime ...... :sigh:


humfrz

I personally like weighted shift because u know our gear box is kinda crunchy and notchy.
It helps me to shift smoothly and effortlessly especially on 1st and 2nd.
I am using 1lb blox.

It is crunchy! I was about to buy a short shifter, thinking that it would fix the problem...

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)

You're in the car scene humfrz! Sleep is not in our agenda! Lol.

Eat, Meet, Race!

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)

Get a Raceseng shift knob that comes with a delrin cover. I personally use the Orbature and you get the extra weight but the Delrin cover doesn't get nearly as hot or cold as steel. They can be a bit pricey but are the best of both worlds IMO

The Delrin has a nice feel to it.

If you want a nice precise and positive shift feel, get a lightweight Delrin knob. If you want less positive feel and an easier shift, get a heavy shift knob. If you want the absolutely most phenominal feeling shift...you get rid of the entire stock shifter assembly and go with this:

http://abload.de/img/unbenannty3ypl.jpg

I've seen this shifter set up before. But I've always wondered how they work, since they only go back and forth... Does it work like paddle shifters?

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)
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You are thinking of a Sequential transmission, pictured is the CAE Ultra shifter that still uses the traditional H pattern of the transmission.

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I had both,

heavier knob = making shifting smooth, but it doesnt have any feel to it, the notchy feeling is gone. numb!

lighter knob = shifting is more precise, notchy and mechanical.

I had a Raceseng slammer (1.25lbs?) vs a genuine TRD Knob (lighter than oem).

Sold the Raceseng and stick with the TRD, however its all personal reference!

He's a well vetted forum member that often times has a sarcastic side.

Nothing he says is intended to be malicious.

OP,

Did you have a chance to drive your buddy's car with the shift knob installed? If not, you install it in yours, and try it. Only you will know if you like it. If you don't you should be able to sell it without too much trouble. Personally, I installed a Raceseng Topology I bought from a fellow board member in my '15. In my opinion it's one of the best mods I've done. I don't think it removed the feel, just moderated it a bit. The trans can be pretty notchy with the light knob and this offers just the right amount of smoothness - for me.

I will do that. Thanks for the tip! I've felt the knob itself. It's heavy for sure, and pure metal. But I haven't shifted with it. I'll try it out on Thursday!

2013 SCION FRS (Argento)
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