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tranzformer 04-20-2011 10:39 PM

FR-S / FT-86 Concepts: Mk1 vs. Mk2 vs. Mk3
 
Which one is your favorite? I wish we could get all three version in the same color (either black or red) as it would make comparison a little easier. I tried to get the same angle shots as best I could.



Mk1:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4...cepttokyom.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/536...86conceptn.jpg


http://www.autocarmagz.com/wp-conten...Concept_02.jpg


http://wot.motortrend.com/files/2010/07/33990582.jpeg



Mk 2:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...3&d=1298964697


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...8&d=1298964697


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...2&d=1298964947


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1298964730


Mk 3:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...9&d=1303325545


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...3&d=1303325701


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...9&d=1303324487


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...6&d=1303325167

Giccin 04-20-2011 10:43 PM

I still like the MKI.

Lol

RRnold 04-20-2011 10:43 PM

The one that started it all, MKI!! It was such a clean and simple design.

Giccin 04-20-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 35970)
The one that started it all, MKI!! It was such a clean and simple design.


Ditto.

MKIII looks like a Ford Mustang decided to have sex with the MKII and the MKIII was born. Lol.

tranzformer 04-20-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold (Post 35970)
The one that started it all, MKI!! It was such a clean and simple design.

I agree. I wonder how the Mk1 would have looked if they had tinted the windows? It is nice that the showed the interior, but I wonder if it "lost" something in the process without the tint compared the Mk2 and Mk3?

enc0re 04-20-2011 10:47 PM

Mk III. I think it looks the cleanest. On the Mk II they said they made the windshield taller because of feedback. The steeper one created too much tunnel effect when driving. Yet Mk III has the steep one again. Weird.

tranzformer 04-20-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enc0re (Post 35974)
On the Mk II they said they made the windshield taller because of feedback.

Source?

serialk11r 04-20-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enc0re (Post 35974)
Mk III. I think it looks the cleanest. On the Mk II they said they made the windshield taller because of feedback. The steeper one created too much tunnel effect when driving. Yet Mk III has the steep one again. Weird.

To me it looks in between the Mk I and II, although that's just my eyes :iono:
I hate the exaggerated wheel arches/wells/fenders/whatever it's called on the MkIII but the overall body shape is so much better than the other 2.

lomodr 04-20-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enc0re (Post 35974)
Mk III. I think it looks the cleanest. On the Mk II they said they made the windshield taller because of feedback. The steeper one created too much tunnel effect when driving. Yet Mk III has the steep one again. Weird.

I remember reading something like that about the windshield.

Found it from Autocar in regards to MKII:
Akihiro Nagaya, the manager of Toyota’s design division, told Autocar that the changes had been made after test drivers’ reaction to early prototypes of the car, which uses a floorpan and flat-four engine developed in conjunction with Subaru.
“We had feedback from drivers who felt that the angle of the A-pillars created a type of ‘tunnel vision’,” he said. “This could sometimes make the car hard to place on the road, particularly at higher speeds. The theory behind this car remains that of the ‘86’ [the original Corolla AE-86], which was easy and pure to drive, so we had to change it.”

I still like MKI the most too. Between MK II and MKIII, I'd choose MKIII.

racinstylez 04-20-2011 10:57 PM

I like the MKI, and its what got me interested in this concept but after seeing the MKIII it gets my vote. Its much more aggressive and almost has an "exotic" style, I like the rear taillights which are similar to the LFA, and from the way its setup it looks like it could be a lift back which is what I want. The biggest thing I hate about the new MKIII is the center SCION badge whether its a 3rd brake light or not, I dislike it a lot. Other things that put me off are the motorcycle style brakes, but I'm sure a production model will never see this type of braking system. If we could have the interior of the MKI along with its door handles and side mirrors plus the MKIII body that would be perfect!!

c0rbin 04-20-2011 11:00 PM

MKIII is beautifully proportioned, IMO. Somehow the giant curves work out right and it ends up looking good from every angle. I also like the pushed up rear-end (although I think integrated, flush tail lights would look better)... reminds me of a Supra. I am torn between MK1 and MKIII. The concept itself of MKIII looks better but only because it has a much more aggressive stance due to the flush wheels. Photoshopped flush MKI's look on par with the MKIII to me.

MKII is trash.

MKIII gets my torn vote 'cause its newer.

WOOT! My excitement is back... I was really bummed out about the MKII concept. As long as they don't change it too much for production.

concept_cynic 04-20-2011 11:00 PM

It's hard for me to decide now. I will wait for mk4 or mk5. How many concepts are they gonna make before release? I hope at least 4 more.

enc0re 04-20-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 35976)
Source?

Autocar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autocar
However, the biggest change is to the A-pillars, which have been moved back by around 100mm at the base, resulting in a more upright windscreen. [...]

“We had feedback from drivers who felt that the angle of the A-pillars created a type of ‘tunnel vision’,” he said. “This could sometimes make the car hard to place on the road, particularly at higher speeds. The theory behind this car remains that of the ‘86’ [the original Corolla AE-86], which was easy and pure to drive, so we had to change it.”


tranzformer 04-20-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lomodr (Post 35981)
Found it from Autocar in regards to MKII:
Akihiro Nagaya, the manager of Toyota’s design division, told Autocar that the changes had been made after test drivers’ reaction to early prototypes of the car, which uses a floorpan and flat-four engine developed in conjunction with Subaru.
“We had feedback from drivers who felt that the angle of the A-pillars created a type of ‘tunnel vision’,” he said. “This could sometimes make the car hard to place on the road, particularly at higher speeds. The theory behind this car remains that of the ‘86’ [the original Corolla AE-86], which was easy and pure to drive, so we had to change it.”


Thanks. Just in case someone wants to read the context of the article here is the rest:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...spx?AR=255775#


Edit:


Quote:

Originally Posted by enc0re (Post 35989)
Autocar.

I just found it after lomodr posted it. Thanks.


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