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Originally Posted by MTD_86 (Post 2871839)

POINTS!

Yes I am 25. You can say what you like personal attacks are a great representation of your character so I'll keep this short wise old man. [sarcastic yaw] "Back in your day" retailers described their products in a truthful and accurate matter and it was not up to the customer to search endlessly in the dark chasms of the internet for an answer to something that is clearly stated on a seller's webpage. I also accepted that I installed the exhaust and that it was not the correct thing to do. I did my due diligence and found an exhaust I thought would fit given the information I had. I bought it realized it didn't fit and installed it. MY FAULT! That is not the issue at hand though, and if you really want to make it about a generation thing go ahead, but lets keep one thing straight here. WE are not responsible for many of the problems that is seen in my generation. Who coddled us, bet you didn't put yourself through school, and if you did it cost half as much as it does now. I put myself through an engineering degree working 3 jobs. Make generalizations if you want, I don't care, I know who I am and how hard I work for what I have.

Good talk.

Good try on the generational gap, but I'm also 25. Just notice the general attitude of those in this age group loving to play the victim. You fucked up, own it. If I bought a part that didn't fit, I wouldn't have installed it anyways and "made it work" I'd have either, immediately contacted the company and put my stock part back on, or said "fuck it, I'll just get a different flange welded on".

But, working daily with engineers, I understand that you love to go through long, convuluted processes to make something simple work.

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Originally Posted by MTD_86 (Post 2871756)

You are all missing the point here, they lied about what they were going to do.

I understand your position completely, you're also missing my point here:

You, by installing/modifying the exhaust to sorta work, put yourself in the position of dealing with a shitty company w/ shitty customer service and drag this process out much longer than needed.

If you installed it, it didn't work, then tried to swap or refund and they give you crap, you have a solid case of complete chargeback or buyer's protection. But since you admitted that you installed it, it now becomes a "you vs them" case of who said what.

Honestly I understand the point of the rant, I just think you need to take ownership of the fact that you prolonged and compounded a problem that could've been avoided if you didnt try to finish installing a product that wasn't fitting right.

-alex

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Originally Posted by Cole (Post 2871875)

But, working daily with engineers, I understand that you love to go through long, convuluted processes to make something simple work.

There's a reason why I have an engineering degree but choose not to work in that field. Engineers also seem to frown upon common sense.

Hate to say it but you don't have any ground to stand on here..

Even if you did have it in writing in regards to your drive, it wouldn't even be worth the hassle or money to take any legal action.

In reality, if you knew it didn't fit, you should not have installed it or "rigged" it up in anyway. Its very well Known Top Speed is company that re-brands knock off ebay exhausts, and that they have fitment issues.. Clearly you did not do your research if you thought this was going to be a 100% hassle free experience.

You would have been better off spending ~150 more on a Greddy or something similar.

no one has any clue what works on 2017's. Some stuff does, most does not, even vendors and manufacturers are trying to figure it out. Don't trust anyone unless they specifically say they've tried it and it fits.

And you used the product? I don't know of any company at all that would take back something that you installed and used on the car, so if they are giving you any money back at all, that is good on them. Never heard of the company, I doubt I would ever buy anything from them, but almost every aftermarket company out there would refuse to take back a part that was installed and used.