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mav1178 05-17-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 2974465)
so you can run these with stock everything else? I'd be very interested, I seem to rub on absolutely everything, If the spring rate is oem or higher and the handling won't be destroyed anyways.

I finally got them tested at Eibach.

Chuhatsu lift springs:
Front: 129 lbs/in
Rear: 206 lbs/in

For comparison purposes:

Car: Front OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)

Rear OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 37 N/mm (211 lbs/in)

venturaII 05-17-2018 01:25 PM

A bit of a hijack, but sort of related to Mav's post above: Are there different spring part numbers for our cars based on option packages/vehicle weight, or are all BRZ springs (non including special package models like PP, tS, etc) or FR-S springs the same rate? I've been wanting a set of BRZ front springs for my FR-S, but want to be sure my ride height is going to stay where it is right now. Since our cars have very few items that are optional, I assume they are all the same within a given model, but just want tbe sure.

churchx 05-17-2018 02:42 PM

Hmm, it looks, like fronts may become a bit overdamped then? As side gain, maybe car will be less understeery then stock even without camber changes.
P.S.
Maybe worth adding those rates to OP.

Yoniyama 05-17-2018 02:46 PM

Thank you so much for posting the spring rate information.

Near OEM spring rate and an extra 15mm of wheel travel, I am ready to get a set.

How do I order a set for AT for delivery in the US?

Racecomp Engineering 05-17-2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3088163)
I finally got them tested at Eibach.

Chuhatsu lift springs:
Front: 129 lbs/in
Rear: 206 lbs/in

For comparison purposes:

Car: Front OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)

Rear OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 37 N/mm (211 lbs/in)

Thanks for that. Interesting...basically close to OEM FRS spring rates.

- Andrew

venturaII 05-17-2018 03:01 PM

Well, if you have extra travel available, you don't need a stiff rate to control movement in as restricted an area.

mav1178 05-17-2018 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3088214)
Hmm, it looks, like fronts may become a bit overdamped then?

The fronts are barely softer than stock FR-S, so it may just be sample variation. Impossible to determine that conclusion based on one single spring test. In N/mm it's 22.68 front on Chuhatsu vs 23 on stock FR-S.

H_K 06-24-2018 10:29 PM

Are there any installation instructions in English? Any North American suppliers?

mav1178 06-26-2018 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H_K (Post 3102907)
Are there any installation instructions in English? Any North American suppliers?

https://frsport.com/chuhatsu-plus-cp...z-zn6-zc6-2013

No need for installation instructions in English unless you're doing spring installation for the first time ever.

Wiscocrashtest 06-28-2018 11:27 AM

this is exactly what I need. Now to decide whether to use OEM dampers or get Konis...

churchx 06-28-2018 12:35 PM

If not the shortages of Bilstein, i'd also think of B6. Otherwise .. OEMs, if they are in good shape. Used MY2017 when they appear among classifieds. Koni yellows? Hmm, also probably may work.

Hyper4mance2k 06-28-2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3104304)
If not the shortages of Bilstein, i'd also think of B6. Otherwise .. OEMs, if they are in good shape. Used MY2017 when they appear among classifieds. Koni yellows? Hmm, also probably may work.

I've had a set for sale for dirt cheap for months... A little damage, but they still work. I don't think anyone really wants them. "Coilovers and slammy McSlamerson, camber, Bruh."

leevanf 08-07-2019 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 3088163)
I finally got them tested at Eibach.

Chuhatsu lift springs:
Front: 129 lbs/in
Rear: 206 lbs/in

For comparison purposes:

Car: Front OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 27 N/mm (153 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 23 N/mm (131 lbs/in)

Rear OE Spring Rate:
Subaru BRZ 34 N/mm (195 lbs/in)
Scion FR-S 37 N/mm (211 lbs/in)

Hi Mav, are the OE springs used for comparison on the BRZ, from the older MY or 2017MY?

mav1178 08-07-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leevanf (Post 3245342)
Hi Mav, are the OE springs used for comparison on the BRZ, from the older MY or 2017MY?

Data pulled from other parts of the forum.


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