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Oxyg3n 02-25-2017 02:51 PM

Check engine light on new car..
 
Today could be one of the worst days ever.. My 2006 tsx had a check engine light for a few weeks now and I finally have the time this weekend to get it checked out. I then take the brz out before doing that and bam the check engine light on it comes on. It's a 2017 with 5600 miles on it..

So to owners who have experienced a CEL on low mileage, what is typically the cause? I've tried the gas cap already and don't have the time at the moment to get it checked out yet.

Thanks for reading!

Codes are: P119F and P219A

Tcoat 02-25-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860331)
Today could be one of the worst days ever.. My 2006 tsx had a check engine light for a few weeks now and I finally have the time this weekend to get it checked out. I then take the brz out before doing that and bam the check engine light on it comes on. It's a 2017 with 5600 miles on it..

So to owners who have experienced a CEL on low mileage, what is typically the cause? I've tried the gas cap already and don't have the time at the moment to get it checked out yet.

Thanks for reading!

First off it takes a brave man to drive around for weeks with a CEL and not know what it is for!

Get the code read. There are at least 1,000 things that it could be ranging from a loose gas cap to you are about to blow the engine up or lose your steering suddenly. Guessing at what it could be is just pissing into the wind.

Overdrive 02-25-2017 05:12 PM

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Please buy this:

https://www.amazon.com/KOBRA-OBDII-B...etooth+adapter

And this app:

https://torque-bhp.com/

And for less than $20 total you have a code reader always on hand on your smart phone, along with a ton of other data you may not have even known you wanted to know about your car and what it's doing at any given time. Keep the adapter in your glovebox, and any time the CEL turns on, you can know what the code is in a minute, easy as pie.

And knowing is half the battle...

humfrz 02-25-2017 05:47 PM

:slap: ........ and you KNOW what that is for!

The strategy for you has been put fourth up above.

Back in the day, we didn't have "check engine lights".

How did we know the engine needed attention .. ??

* maybe you saw steam rolling out from under the hood

* maybe the lights went dimmer and the engine stopped running, because it was out of electricity

* maybe you heard loud knocking then a big bam, because there was no more oil pressure

* maybe the brake pedal went all the way to the floor, no matter how many times you pumped it

* maybe you heard a flop-flop-flop sound and the car pulled to the side real bad

* then maybe the car just stopped running ..... because you were out of gas

See how lucky we are today that we have all those gismos looking after our car's engines.


humfrz - needs a nap ....... :D

Mr.ac 02-25-2017 08:33 PM

Wow kids today.
Your google-fu is weak young grasshopper.
(Insert every noob joke)

PandaSPUR 02-25-2017 09:18 PM

Possibly a dumb question on my part, but its not just the TPMS light right? Its actual CEL?

Overdrive 02-25-2017 09:22 PM

I think that's a legitimate question, though I'd also hope (which I should know better than to do) that the user knows the difference between the CEL and the TPMS warning. I'd assume so because they mentioned having a CEL on another vehicle, but still, a legitimate question to help eliminate one possibility.

PandaSPUR 02-25-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 2860530)
I think that's a legitimate question, though I'd also hope (which I should know better than to do) that the user knows the difference between the CEL and the TPMS warning. I'd assume so because they mentioned having a CEL on another vehicle, but still, a legitimate question to help eliminate one possibility.

Kinda hoping for the best in his case too, CEL on a car with just 5k miles is strange.

Any modifications?

Ultramaroon 02-25-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2860509)
Wow kids today.
Your google-fu is weak young grasshopper.
(Insert every noob joke)

Read OP a few hours ago. Couldn't respond because I was too fucking pissed off. Thank you.

Tcoat 02-25-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2860509)
Wow kids today.
Your google-fu is weak young grasshopper.
(Insert every noob joke)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2860551)
Read OP a few hours ago. Couldn't respond because I was too fucking pissed off. Thank you.

What exactly would they Google? CEL light on? Still back to square one with a massive number of possibilities and zero idea which one it is. Without a code read even Google is a waste of time.
It is like saying "I have a noise I can't describe and have no idea where it even comes from so what is it?"

Boomerang 02-25-2017 10:36 PM

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guybo 02-25-2017 10:47 PM

I think it's the muffler bearings. I don't know how many forum posts and TSB's I've seen about those damn muffler bearings on the FA20 and the FA20DIT but but they really should have done a recall.

Get a light and shine it up the exhaust tips and tell us what you see. If it's just shiny metal down the pipe, the muffler bearings came loose.

Oxyg3n 02-25-2017 10:52 PM

@Mr.ac @Ultramaroon I don't get what I could've googled. My question was really what problems people usually face when they get CEL at "low" miles. Plus I don't have a code yet.

@Tcoat I didn't drive the tsx for weeks with its check engine light lol. It was just sitting there, now both cars have to just sit there :mad0259:

Sadly today is a Saturday and most shops are closed. I swear I thought O'reilly checks CEL lights but turns out they don't. Also, only mods to the car is Perrin catback exhaust.
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Tcoat 02-25-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860583)
@Mr.ac @Ultramaroon I don't get what I could've googled. My question was really what problems people usually face when they get CEL at "low" miles. Plus I don't have a code yet.

@Tcoat I didn't drive the tsx for weeks with its check engine light lol. It was just sitting there, now both cars have to just sit there :mad0259:

Sadly today is a Saturday and most shops are closed. I swear I thought O'reilly checks CEL lights but turns out they don't. Also, only mods to the car is Perrin catback exhaust.
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Oh good! It sounded like you were driving it with one on. If you didn't go into limp mode (can't rev over 3K, Trac light on and no cruise) then it probably isn't serious. Operative word there is "probably" though.

Ultramaroon 02-25-2017 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860331)
Today could be one of the worst days ever.. My 2006 tsx had a check engine light for a few weeks now and I finally have the time this weekend to get it checked out. I then take the brz out before doing that and bam the check engine light on it comes on. It's a 2017 with 5600 miles on it..

So to owners who have experienced a CEL on low mileage, what is typically the cause? I've tried the gas cap already and don't have the time at the moment to get it checked out yet.

Thanks for reading!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2860562)
What exactly would they Google? CEL light on? Still back to square one with a massive number of possibilities and zero idea which one it is. Without a code read even Google is a waste of time.
It is like saying "I have a noise I can't describe and have no idea where it even comes from so what is it?"

Exactly. So, how should we know? "Hey, Internet, I got a check engine light. Don't have time to look into it. Any ideas?"

Seriously? SMH

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Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860583)
@Mr.ac @Ultramaroon I don't get what I could've googled. My question was really what problems people usually face when they get CEL at "low" miles. Plus I don't have a code yet.

Ok, I wasn't really clear about my agreement. Probably should've waited a while longer. #triggered

Tcoat 02-25-2017 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2860365)
Guessing at what it could be is just pissing into the wind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2860601)
Exactly. So, how should we know? "Hey, Internet, I got a check engine light. Don't have time to look into it. Any ideas?"

Exactly as I stated in my first response.

Ultramaroon 02-25-2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2860607)
Exactly as I stated in my first response.

Oh, shit. I was too fired up to read through your whole post. I just read "Get the code read [more stuff trying to actually be helpful] ..."

And I just shut down. :bonk:

Mr.ac 02-26-2017 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2860562)
What exactly would they Google? CEL light on? Still back to square one with a massive number of possibilities and zero idea which one it is. Without a code read even Google is a waste of time.
It is like saying "I have a noise I can't describe and have no idea where it even comes from so what is it?"

Google will tell you to get a code reader, prices, and how to use it. That's the basic start.

Something tells me your google-fu is getting rusty.

humfrz 02-26-2017 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860583)
@Mr.ac @Ultramaroon I don't get what I could've googled. My question was really what problems people usually face when they get CEL at "low" miles. Plus I don't have a code yet.

Sadly today is a Saturday and most shops are closed. I swear I thought O'reilly checks CEL lights but turns out they don't. Also, only mods to the car is Perrin catback exhaust...........

Oh, my, Oxyg3n .......might I suggest that you unplug the car's battery for a few minutes, then plug it back in, to see if the CEL goes away and doesn't come back ....... maybe you will get lucky because the car(s) just hiccupped ........;)


humfrz

new2subaru 02-26-2017 09:43 AM

Have you had the air filter out at all?

If so, make sure it was put back in correctly and that it is seated properly.

ybotspawn 02-26-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2860580)
I think it's the muffler bearings. I don't know how many forum posts and TSB's I've seen about those damn muffler bearings on the FA20 and the FA20DIT but but they really should have done a recall.

Get a light and shine it up the exhaust tips and tell us what you see. If it's just shiny metal down the pipe, the muffler bearings came loose.

Liar! The blinker fluid leak is a much bigger issue on these cars

Sent from my Moto G4 Plus using Tapatalk

humfrz 02-26-2017 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ybotspawn (Post 2860877)
Liar! The blinker fluid leak is a much bigger issue on these cars

Sent from my Moto G4 Plus using Tapatalk

:slap: ....... you're not being helpful ..... everyone (except you, apparently) knows that low blinker fluid on these cars will not trigger a CEL ...... :rolleyes:



humfrz

Tcoat 02-26-2017 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2860651)
Google will tell you to get a code reader, prices, and how to use it. That's the basic start.

Something tells me your google-fu is getting rusty.

Ahhhh but if he had thought of getting a code in the first place then he would not have asked the ambitus question and we may have actually been able to answer.

OH and a Google search of "what does a cel on my car mean?" did not have one response that said to read the code in the top 10 responses. They all either give the top 5 most common reasons (so pissing in the wind) or said to see your mechanic. So even at just being told to read the code he was ahead of the game by asking here where we at least said we are clueless without a code.

Oxyg3n 03-01-2017 02:44 AM

Well my OBDII scanner is coming in tomorrow.. But in the meantime I was thinking that although theoretically the catback exhaust itself has no sensor on it, is there still a possibility to get a CEL from changing it out?

Ultramaroon 03-01-2017 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2862924)
Well my OBDII scanner is coming in tomorrow.. But in the meantime I was thinking that although theoretically the catback exhaust itself has no sensor on it, is there still a possibility to get a CEL from changing it out?

Nah. You're safe with that. Not even near any wires/sensors.

BRZnut 03-01-2017 09:42 AM

Use the scanner when it comes and report back with the code. The good thing is since it is running fine with the code, and since it is a new car, it is most likely not serious plus any fix will be covered. But I am with you and would be very annoyed to get a code on a new car!

Da Brz 03-01-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 2860405)
Please buy this:

https://www.amazon.com/KOBRA-OBDII-B...etooth+adapter

And this app:

https://torque-bhp.com/

And for less than $20 total you have a code reader always on hand on your smart phone, along with a ton of other data you may not have even known you wanted to know about your car and what it's doing at any given time. Keep the adapter in your glovebox, and any time the CEL turns on, you can know what the code is in a minute, easy as pie.

And knowing is half the battle...

This, this, this.

I just bought one of these to help chase down a misfire in my truck and I was kicking myself for not spending the $25 to get this in the first place.

Prior to that, I'd been out there swapping coils and boots and plugs and injectors like a real mechanic.

It's like doing long division when there's a TI-83 sitting right there.

86geek 03-01-2017 12:23 PM

Your car is brand new....just take it back to the stealership....you have a new car warranty which you'll have to eventually take it back to them to fix the issue.... ;)

HunterGreene 03-01-2017 12:23 PM

Willing to bet a Dollar that its the gas cap not being on tight.

Tcoat 03-01-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2860331)
Today could be one of the worst days ever.. My 2006 tsx had a check engine light for a few weeks now and I finally have the time this weekend to get it checked out. I then take the brz out before doing that and bam the check engine light on it comes on. It's a 2017 with 5600 miles on it..

So to owners who have experienced a CEL on low mileage, what is typically the cause? I've tried the gas cap already and don't have the time at the moment to get it checked out yet.

Thanks for reading!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2863116)
Willing to bet a Dollar that its the gas cap not being on tight.


Guessing remains pissing into the wind! I will take a money order for that dollar.

HunterGreene 03-01-2017 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2863118)
Guessing remains pissing into the wind! I will take a money order for that dollar.

I don't bother reading when I have already reached my conclusion, duh.

Tcoat 03-01-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2863129)
I don't bother reading when I have already reached my conclusion, duh.

LOL That is why I always read (still manage to miss important info and say something silly every now and then though).

Ultramaroon 03-01-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2863139)
LOL That is why I always read (still manage to miss important info and say something silly every now and then though).

Now and then?

humfrz 03-01-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2863129)
I don't bother reading when I have already reached my conclusion, duh.

:slap:...........:D


humfrz

Oxyg3n 03-02-2017 11:11 PM

Finally received my OBD2 scanner and got the codes P119F and P219A. Scanner has a "permanent code" option and P219A was in there, is that bad?

Problem seems to be some kind of "air/fuel ratio imbalance bank 1." But there aren't way too many info on these codes. Any thoughts?:bow:

humfrz 03-02-2017 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2864353)
Finally received my OBD2 scanner and got the codes P119F and P219A. Scanner has a "permanent code" option and P219A was in there, is that bad?

Problem seems to be some kind of "air/fuel ratio imbalance bank 1." But there aren't way too many info on these codes. Any thoughts?:bow:

OK, good start ...... the code reader will be a handy tool for you.

Now like @86geek suggested .....take your car into the dealer and ask them to fix it ... :)


humfrz

Oxyg3n 03-02-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2864358)
OK, good start ...... the code reader will be a handy tool for you.

Now like @86geek suggested .....take your car into the dealer and ask them to fix it ... :)


humfrz

If only it was so easy to "take it to the dealer." Work has to permit and weekends are packed with appointments. There are literally no free spots on Saturdays even up till 2018 on their online system lol. Will try to call tomorrow though of course.

humfrz 03-02-2017 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxyg3n (Post 2864366)
If only it was so easy to "take it to the dealer." Work has to permit and weekends are packed with appointments. There are literally no free spots on Saturdays even up till 2018 on their online system lol. Will try to call tomorrow though of course.

For cryen out loud, Oxyg3n, with automobile ownership comes a responsibility to maintain your most likely second biggest investment.

You live in the bay area ....... it's not like you're in the middle of Montana.

:slap: ....... figure it out how you're gonna get it to the dealer ...... :popcorn:


humfrz

86geek 03-03-2017 01:39 AM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Overdrive 03-03-2017 09:45 PM

Do you have any sort of vacation time? If so, take a day so you can handle the issue(s) with the car. You also don't have to go to the dealer that you bought it from. Take it to any Subaru dealer in the area. Someone's got to have time on a Saturday, or you've got to be able to take some time from work to drop the car off and get a loaner from the dealer.

Or call AAA (get it if you don't have it) and have them tow it to the dealer some time that the dealer has available.


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