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2017-BRZ 02-17-2017 10:08 PM

2017 BRZ Owners Performance Thoughts
 
So I wanted to make a statement. This car is NOT slow LOL.

I would even dare say this car is amazingly quick.. Yea I own it I daily drive it and its QUICK. Roll on quick..off line QUICK. Can get you into TROUBLE FAST on local streets QUICK..

I don't know how the reviews were so "negative" speed inspiring.
So much so I almost passed on a purchase because my last car
was a 480 (560HP) tuned P-car 997TT.

I can make a real comparison on what acceleration "feels" like.

And the 2017 BRZ can accelerate. Can accelerate under 6 seconds with out mashing the throttle either. When I've timed the accelerator and clutch pedal perfectly I did it in 5 using a timer and off the line stop light.

I haven't even gone beyond 6K RPMs yet because I am just shy of 1000 miles break in.

If I allow the car to pull me at its own pace and rev match accordingly with throttle in stride it is one of the most amazing rides I have had since the 997TT.

No my friends. This car does NOT disappoint. Stock. Thanks..

:bow:

ryoma 02-18-2017 12:18 AM

although I agree with you that our cars are not as slow as everyone claims it to be, but I can say that it is not "fast" either. it's an NA 2 liter engine, it is what it is. it's not a 6 cylinder turbo beast or a V8. maybe the new final drive on the 2017 gives you the impression that the car is faster, but I highly doubt that the car can get to 60 in 5 seconds. it's 200 hp. it's enough for the street but not comparable to other "high performance" cars.

disclaimer: this is all my opinion so please go easy on me

gskv 02-18-2017 01:55 AM

for experienced drivers, they will sense the speed of the car

for newbie mash the pedal drivers, they will feel that it is slow

verdict?

it'll make both happy if the vehicle had 40 more ponies

reality is, when you're on the highway, it'd be nice if 3rd gear did something.

Sport-Tech 02-18-2017 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gskv (Post 2855437)
...reality is, when you're on the highway, it'd be nice if 3rd gear did something.

Agreed - around town it tests out fine, but at 70 mph when you punch it to grab that opening on the freeway, it's just not there - the MX-5 is better in that respect.

Stephen W. 02-18-2017 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech (Post 2855460)
Agreed - around town it tests out fine, but at 70 mph when you punch it to grab that opening on the freeway, it's just not there - the MX-5 is better in that respect.



This is why I have not yet pulled the trigger on a BRZ. I’m used to vehicles that force me back into my seat when I accelerate. Any test drives I’ve had in BRZ’s have left me wanting in this department.


No offense to the OP (2017-BRZ) but I too know what acceleration is. The 205 (rated H.P.) NA boxer four found in the, as delivered twins, isn’t producing enough of it for me!
If your happy with yours that’s great for you.

Somerandom18 02-18-2017 11:47 AM

Headers, e85 and a tune. Problem solved. Hell even just e85 and a tune will do the job. Must say though, my 17 goes from 60-100 real quick. Car is next to stock. Did you keep the engine between 5k and redline at all while test driving? That's where the power is..

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STV3 02-18-2017 12:04 PM

uhhh what???

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2017-BRZ (Post 2855342)
So I wanted to make a statement. This car is NOT slow LOL.

I would even dare say this car is amazingly quick.. Yea I own it I daily drive it and its QUICK. Roll on quick..off line QUICK. Can get you into TROUBLE FAST on local streets QUICK..

I don't know how the reviews were so "negative" speed inspiring.
So much so I almost passed on a purchase because my last car
was a 480 (560HP) tuned P-car 997TT.

I can make a real comparison on what acceleration "feels" like.

And the 2017 BRZ can accelerate. Can accelerate under 6 seconds with out mashing the throttle either. When I've timed the accelerator and clutch pedal perfectly I did it in 5 using a timer and off the line stop light.

I haven't even gone beyond 6K RPMs yet because I am just shy of 1000 miles break in.

If I allow the car to pull me at its own pace and rev match accordingly with throttle in stride it is one of the most amazing rides I have had since the 997TT.

No my friends. This car does NOT disappoint. Stock. Thanks..

:bow:


raven1231 02-18-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STV3 (Post 2855549)
uhhh what???

OP is using alternative facts, it's okay.

nico_rsx 02-18-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2855553)
OP is using alternative facts, it's okay.

Haha,
Well he also didn't say accelerate to what speed...
Maybe 0-60 KM/H
Or 20-60 MPH

STV3 02-18-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raven1231 (Post 2855553)
OP is using alternative facts, it's okay.

Ahhh ok makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

2017-BRZ 02-18-2017 09:28 PM

alternative facts ha ha..

93 octane 1/2 tank fuel..30 dgree F...6K shift
under 6 seconds... stock.

2017 owners welcomed to test and verify..

I can't lay claims for earlier model years.

Highway speed passing no problems either.:happyanim:

2017-BRZ 02-18-2017 09:31 PM

Rock chips... Now that's a problem.. I see a clear bra in my future.

Stephen W. 02-22-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 2855540)
Headers, e85 and a tune. Problem solved. Hell even just e85 and a tune will do the job. Must say though, my 17 goes from 60-100 real quick. Car is next to stock.



I was not aware that the “Twins” were “Flex Fuel Vehicles” from the factory.


I know that many feel there is only an up side to ethanol fuels. However, ethanol laced fuels can and have caused problems with some vehicles. I speak from personal experience. There is more to making a FFV than adding a sensor, a new tune and e85.


FFVs are specially designed to run on regular unleaded or any ethanol fuel blend up to 85%. It is my understanding that any part of the vehicle which comes in contact with such blended fuel has to be upgraded to tolerate said fuel. Normally, these parts include an upgraded fuel tank, the fuel lines, fuel injectors, fuel pump components, etcetera with ethanol compatible parts as well as the aforementioned sensor and ECU tunes.


I’m not wanting to ignite another e85 debate, there are already plenty of those on this and other forums. I’m just stating my concern on using fuels that as yet are not recommended by the factory. It may well be that many of the components in the “Twins” are already ethanol compatible. But if that were the case why would the factories not advertise the fact?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Somerandom18 (Post 2855540)
Did you keep the engine between 5k and redline at all while test driving? That's where the power is...


New no, used yes. Well as best I could with an antsy salesman sitting beside me. Still didn't feel like I wished it did.


A little better than my son-in-laws Impreza but nowhere near my tired old 2006 box stock STi.

Ernest72 02-22-2017 10:35 AM

OP having both a 16 BRZ and an 04 modded WRX I can understand both sides. The car is not slow its just NA. None of that surge of power from a turbo. If you really get used to that surge than you will miss it. Both are fun, but I have to admit to BRZ is more fun and playful and the steering is great. 250 HP stock would have been perfect for this car. For now I am stock on the warranty, but in the future I'll bump it up some. These cars are more fun in the twisties than any highway pulls.


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