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VeganGirl 02-14-2017 12:51 PM

What does a catch can do and is it nessesary for super charged cars?
 
Long story short my boyfriends car blew up with a kraftwerks running perfect for 2 years and one day just didn't turn on.

Now I want to do any preventative things to keep this from happening to me and my edelbrock kit.

Are catch cans good at preventing this? And what about an oil cooler? Any tips to prevent my engine from exploding would be nice,
Thanks :)

Sportsguy83 02-14-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VeganGirl (Post 2852773)
Long story short my boyfriends car blew up with a kraftwerks running perfect for 2 years and one day just didn't turn on.

Now I want to do any preventative things to keep this from happening to me and my edelbrock kit.

Are catch cans good at preventing this? And what about an oil cooler? Any tips to prevent my engine from exploding would be nice,
Thanks :)

Catch can and oil cooler are supporting mods that help prolong engine life. Proper maintenance and a solid tune are also helpful. Not pushing the car when cold, checking your oil level periodically are also good practice items to help conserve the engine.

VeganGirl 02-14-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 2852826)
Catch can and oil cooler are supporting mods that help prolong engine life. Proper maintenance and a solid tune are also helpful. Not pushing the car when cold, checking your oil level periodically are also good practice items to help conserve the engine.

Thank you!

I have the solid tune in check, and I check my oil every week :)

Also I don't push the car much , it's just my daily driver :)

Do you think oil cooler is nessesary in daily driven edelbrock car or not really? I have not and will not ever track my car(just not my thing). But I also live in Florida, so I know it can get hot here in the summers

Sportsguy83 02-14-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VeganGirl (Post 2852947)
Thank you!

I have the solid tune in check, and I check my oil every week :)

Also I don't push the car much , it's just my daily driver :)

Do you think oil cooler is nessesary in daily driven edelbrock car or not really? I have not and will not ever track my car(just not my thing). But I also live in Florida, so I know it can get hot here in the summers

Honestly not absolutely needed. Synthetic oil will stay true to it's properties to 300+ degrees. It's in the track where you could end up sustaining 280+ degrees where it's a concern. For daily and not pushing much you shouldn't see anything over 250 and very little over 230.

Helios 02-14-2017 07:11 PM

Still calling BS the KW kit blew up an engine. Sounds like someone doesn't know how to perform maintenance or troubleshoot a FI problem. No follow-up on recommended fixes suggested by forum members either or an exact cause/ symptoms of said "blown up" engine.
Anywho, catch can...supporting mod. Not necessary, but doesn't hurt to have one.

gramicci101 02-14-2017 07:32 PM

There's no particular mod or driving style specifying that now a catch can is necessary. Check your PCV valve and crankcase breather line. If there's oil, a catch can is beneficial. If there's no oil, it isn't. FI or not, track usage or not. Every car is different.

That said, Velox and Radium both make great products.
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/velo...l#.WKOTLmK9KSM
http://counterspacegarage.com/radium...-frs-gt86.html

VeganGirl 02-14-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Helios (Post 2853087)
Still calling BS the KW kit blew up an engine. Sounds like someone doesn't know how to perform maintenance or troubleshoot a FI problem. No follow-up on recommended fixes suggested by forum members either or an exact cause/ symptoms of said "blown up" engine.
Anywho, catch can...supporting mod. Not necessary, but doesn't hurt to have one.

Why would we lie about the engine blowing up?
We took it to 2 shops and it is true the short block =done for and there was metal in the oil. That car was brand new with 30k miles. We 100% believe it was the super charger.
Car is currently being fixed and we are getting rid of that super charger and he's going to drive it stock from now on.

VeganGirl 02-14-2017 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2853098)
There's no particular mod or driving style specifying that now a catch can is necessary. Check your PCV valve and crankcase breather line. If there's oil, a catch can is beneficial. If there's no oil, it isn't. FI or not, track usage or not. Every car is different.

That said, Velox and Radium both make great products.
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/velo...l#.WKOTLmK9KSM
http://counterspacegarage.com/radium...-frs-gt86.html

Thanks!

Teseo 02-14-2017 11:41 PM

Maybe was a spun bearing. Even on NA engine happen

VeganGirl 02-14-2017 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2853254)
Maybe was a spun bearing. Even on NA engine happen

Either way, we purchased a whole separate engine and it will be swapped in hopefully next week. Lost faith in that super charger. Hopefully edelbrock doesn't blow up my engine now too. I've been looking to just get rid of it and move to an RC350 now cause I'm nervous every time i drive it.

Irace86 02-15-2017 12:04 AM

When I go FI I'll get a single catch can for the PCV. Seems like a dual setup is overkill. Most don't see much from the crank case. I don't think lacking a catch can would be a cause of acute engine failure. There would be symptoms before failure. Regardless it is a good idea to get one.

Kodename47 02-15-2017 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VeganGirl (Post 2853256)
I've been looking to just get rid of it and move to an RC350

Wish they did the RC in a V6 here..... it's no where near a good a chassis as the 86/BRZ though for fun.

nos145 02-16-2017 08:01 PM

edelbrock should last you forever unless you went small pulley on stock internals. technically. with that said. how do you like it compared to stock?

also. rc350 is a nice car to sit in. can get u same major boiass too.

Xxyion 02-16-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VeganGirl (Post 2853256)
Either way, we purchased a whole separate engine and it will be swapped in hopefully next week. Lost faith in that super charger. Hopefully edelbrock doesn't blow up my engine now too. I've been looking to just get rid of it and move to an RC350 now cause I'm nervous every time i drive it.

How much power was he making on the Vortech? Its interesting you say there was metal in the oil which caused the engine to seize. Now i'm not a mechanic in any sense of the word but that doesnt sound like something that could be caused specifically by the supercharger. As someone said earlier it can happen on NA as well. Something like that sounds like there was already an internal issue with the engine which got exacerbated with the kit on it but wasnt caused by the kit.

Not trying to call you out or anything but i just went FI as well and anytime someone has an issue with their car i want to see exactly what caused it so i can look out for signs haha.


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