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darthpnoy1984 02-05-2017 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by doctor_driver (Post 2846888)
The rebuilt one is in the 3rd owner since the rebuild so no one really knows what happened.


Hmmm I would surely pass on that the key to buying salvage/rebuild cars is knowing what happened the repairs that were done.


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Impureclient 02-05-2017 09:12 PM
Money can fix anything and you'll be spending it plenty if you're racing it. If it's a track toy, I'd go for the cheaper one and have fun with it.
If it was a daily driver, I wouldn't touch a rebuilt/wrecked one and instead use the $9-11k for a down payment on new/certified.

Out of curiosity, how did that first cars second owner not know it was involved in an accident but you know now at this point?
Did you do a carfax and tell them then they acted all surprised?

doctor_driver 02-05-2017 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2846931)
Money can fix anything and you'll be spending it plenty if you're racing it. If it's a track toy, I'd go for the cheaper one and have fun with it.
If it was a daily driver, I wouldn't touch a rebuilt/wrecked one and instead use the $9-11k for a down payment on new/certified.

Out of curiosity, how did that first cars second owner not know it was involved in an accident but you know now at this point?
Did you do a carfax and tell them then they acted all surprised?
For that car it went like this - 1) Original owner: totalled car 2) Bought at salvage auction and rebuilt by what i believe is some used car dealer 3) private party buys it (owner before current owner) 4) Current owner purchases and only knows what owner 3 told him.

doctor_driver 02-05-2017 11:21 PM
For anyone who didn't see the edit: I'm not going through on either of these cars. Found a good deal on a car on this site, has a clean history (and turboed and tuned - things i was going to do anyways). Thanks for all the help!

darthpnoy1984 02-06-2017 02:13 AM
I face a dilema
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2846931)
Money can fix anything and you'll be spending it plenty if you're racing it. If it's a track toy, I'd go for the cheaper one and have fun with it.
If it was a daily driver, I wouldn't touch a rebuilt/wrecked one and instead use the $9-11k for a down payment on new/certified.

Out of curiosity, how did that first cars second owner not know it was involved in an accident but you know now at this point?
Did you do a carfax and tell them then they acted all surprised?


Some of us dont want to deal with car monthly payments and are willing to take risks, I've had zero issues on my salvaged 15 FRS its all in the draw of luck and repairs which I'm willing to take and insurance is a heck lot lower as well.


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Impureclient 02-06-2017 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984 (Post 2847074)
Some of us dont want to deal with car monthly payments and are willing to take risks, I've had zero issues on my salvaged 15 FRS its all in the draw of luck and repairs which I'm willing to take and insurance is a heck lot lower as well.


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I can respect that. Instead of paying $25k new, getting one for less than half that and possibly having to do some work on it, or maybe none, is a nice way to go if you work on cars yourself.
When I said "daily driver" it is more directed at somebody with only one car to rely on and who can't afford the lost time for repairs if and when it happens. $9k is very tempting for this car though
even if a little work has to be done.

Yardjass 02-06-2017 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984 (Post 2847074)
Some of us dont want to deal with car monthly payments and are willing to take risks, I've had zero issues on my salvaged 15 FRS its all in the draw of luck and repairs which I'm willing to take and insurance is a heck lot lower as well.


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I'm glad you found something that works for you but I'm going to say this for future reference for everyone else. Between the two you listed, as soon as you mentioned track toy, I'd buy the one with the rebuilt engine hands down. You're trusting your vehicle with your life and safety when you take it on track, and trusting a rebuilt vehicle that was deemed a total loss is undue risk IMO. The only exception would be if you have thorough documentation of exactly what happened to determine whether it was a big deal or not.

darthpnoy1984 02-06-2017 12:48 PM
I face a dilema
 
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Originally Posted by Yardjass (Post 2847125)
I'm glad you found something that works for you but I'm going to say this for future reference for everyone else. Between the two you listed, as soon as you mentioned track toy, I'd buy the one with the rebuilt engine hands down. You're trusting your vehicle with your life and safety when you take it on track, and trusting a rebuilt vehicle that was deemed a total loss is undue risk IMO. The only exception would be if you have thorough documentation of exactly what happened to determine whether it was a big deal or not.


That's the key to salvage market and always advice to everyone documentation, documentation. B is for Build and some folks on the build journals can attest to there if done right salvage cars can be $$$ savers.


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2JZ-GTE 02-07-2017 07:06 AM
I would look into which turbo kit is installed and how it was tuned.

As you don't know how the previous owner driven his turbo FRS, it could be a ticking bomb waiting to blow yet you have no idea:iono:

finch1750 02-07-2017 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by doctor_driver (Post 2846735)
Edit: I have taken your advice and am not going to go for either of these two cars - ended up finding a good deal on a clean (and already turboed and tuned) FRS on this site and I plan to go through with it. Thanks for all the help.

I am in need of wisdom; I have either the option of

Option 1: FR-S with 34k miles on it for $11k but it was wrecked and written off as a total loss by insurance and apparently rebuilt back in 2015 and is registered under a clean title now. No other information is available on the car besides 2 previous owners saying it was in a fender bender in a parking lot (that caused a total loss?? I'm weary of that). The current owner bought the car without knowledge of the wreck and rebuild back in December.

Option 2:FR-S with 70k miles on it for $9k, motor was rebuilt by the dealer 2k miles ago (owner has paperwork and proof) but it has a big dent in the driver side fender.

The low mileage engine is enticing for me but I have been told too that a rebuilt motor is sometimes close to new as well. What do y'all think is my best option? I'm looking to slowly turn this into a track dedicated car as well.
Link to option #2 that you passed on?

Glad you found a car that worked for you!

Riftur 02-07-2017 08:27 AM
I wouldn't touch either car. spend the extra 4k and get one that does not have issues.


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