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-   -   SARD Surge Tank Kit w/ ITB from TAS 2017 (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114801)

cyde01 05-07-2017 02:20 PM

@ichitaka05 any info on this? You said ken gushi is doing testing in the US for this right? Is it still coming soon, or is it vaporware?

ichitaka05 05-07-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2905992)
@ichitaka05 any info on this? You said ken gushi is doing testing in the US for this right? Is it still coming soon, or is it vaporware?

I did search few weeks ago & still no info yet

JDM4E 05-08-2017 08:29 AM

It seems it is available on the EMC site, sard is probably only rebranding this
http://emc-eng.net/

mav1178 05-08-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM4E (Post 2906318)
It seems it is available on the EMC site, sard is probably only rebranding this
http://emc-eng.net/

Sard's surge tank is of a completely different design.

cyde01 05-09-2017 01:18 AM

I got my hopes all up... yeah that's a totally different company. So far the only one that makes itbs.

JDM4E 05-09-2017 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cyde01 (Post 2906946)
I got my hopes all up... yeah that's a totally different company. So far the only one that makes itbs.

ok, sorry then. But the kits are "the same" in terms of idea/design. Also, I saw the EMC kit on sale somewhere, so I see no reason to wait for SARD.
I am extremely interested in this too.

Calum 05-09-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2838647)
"Hello?... I'm sorry, how much does a dyno session cost?"

*click*



The nearest tuner I'd take this car to is a 15 hour drive away. If I can get 95% of the performance from a remote tune I'd happily take that. The remote tune means I don't have to take days off work, pay for a hotel and a tow vehicle & trailer. That extra $500 for the tune would likely be an extra $1500 by the time everything was said and done.

mav1178 05-09-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2907117)
The nearest tuner I'd take this car to is a 15 hour drive away. If I can get 95% of the performance from a remote tune I'd happily take that. The remote tune means I don't have to take days off work, pay for a hotel and a tow vehicle & trailer. That extra $500 for the tune would likely be an extra $1500 by the time everything was said and done.

For someone like you, yes it works fine.

I'm mostly talking about those living within walking distance of a tuner in a major metropolitan area.

I grew up here in Southern California, and I can probably fill an entire baseball stadium of people I've dealt with in the last 25 years that are "too cheap to pay for a tune" and yet have no problem dropping thousands of dollars on their mods.

It started back when guys were modding cars with reflashed JWT ECUs on their Nissans. $600 for too expensive for what they wanted, so they just did basic resistor mods. Then the Power FC came out and was wildly popular for the SR20DET swap, guys would buy the $1000 unit and not pay money for a tune, yet have no problem copying someone else's map off the dot matrix display. Then you have AEM, and subsequent "easier" engine management programs to use...

But it's 2017, we all do stuff on computers now...

cyde01 05-09-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM4E (Post 2906985)
ok, sorry then. But the kits are "the same" in terms of idea/design. Also, I saw the EMC kit on sale somewhere, so I see no reason to wait for SARD.
I am extremely interested in this too.

really the only way that it's "the same" is the fact that it's a surge tank and itbs. Aside from that everything is different. No way to know if it's any good without dynoing it.

Teseo 05-09-2017 08:32 PM

I would like to see some dyno graphs with it on bone stock car, with uel header and el header

Shinchu 05-12-2017 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2907137)
For someone like you, yes it works fine.

I'm mostly talking about those living within walking distance of a tuner in a major metropolitan area.

I grew up here in Southern California, and I can probably fill an entire baseball stadium of people I've dealt with in the last 25 years that are "too cheap to pay for a tune" and yet have no problem dropping thousands of dollars on their mods.

It started back when guys were modding cars with reflashed JWT ECUs on their Nissans. $600 for too expensive for what they wanted, so they just did basic resistor mods. Then the Power FC came out and was wildly popular for the SR20DET swap, guys would buy the $1000 unit and not pay money for a tune, yet have no problem copying someone else's map off the dot matrix display. Then you have AEM, and subsequent "easier" engine management programs to use...

But it's 2017, we all do stuff on computers now...

I was one of the sr20 guys with power fc. Loved it!!!!!
Annnnnnd i want itb kit for my fa20. Nope. NEED.
Oh and cams with tune would be great. Plug n play is fine for me too. Even though im walking distance from a tuner. Er... i think san diego has tuners on every corner now. Right?:iono:


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