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hpde_addict 01-06-2017 09:58 PM

Tein Mono Sport for my use case?
 
Beginner (13 track days) and mixed duty (15 mile roundtrip commute, 1-2 track days a month). I'm looking for a coilover to use for the next three years, mainly want to reduce body roll from the higher grip levels and increase responsiveness especially on turn in. I plan to stick with R-S3 since its affordable and I can be lazy and DD them. I'm going to participate in the 86cup, but I don't care about being competitive.

Does Tein Mono Sport look like a good fit for my use case?

Do I need camber plates and/or rear lower control arms to achieve 2.5-3 front and 2-2.5 rear negative camber with 0 toe?

flais 01-09-2017 09:59 AM

I have been using these for the past few months. Only 6 track days on them plus a few side events and daily driving. They come with camber plates but you'll want rear LCAs unless class rules prohibit them. Good firm spring rate but the damping makes them comfortable on the street. You will probably outgrow the single-adjustability soon though.

PandaSPUR 01-09-2017 10:38 AM

Eh I have Tein Monosports and I've never been to the track. For DD, they feel fine to me, no worse than stock. Damper settings set to I believe 8 clicks out of 16.

CSG Mike 01-09-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2828101)
Eh I have Tein Monosports and I've never been to the track. For DD, they feel fine to me, no worse than stock. Damper settings set to I believe 8 clicks out of 16.

This is the most common feedback we see. They ride approximately similar to stock, but offer substantially improved response to driver input, resulting in increased cornering confidence.

hpde_addict 01-09-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flais (Post 2828080)
I have been using these for the past few months. Only 6 track days on them plus a few side events and daily driving. They come with camber plates but you'll want rear LCAs unless class rules prohibit them. Good firm spring rate but the damping makes them comfortable on the street. You will probably outgrow the single-adjustability soon though.

What is the rear LCA needed for? Is it because differences in left vs rear alignment may be magnified by the drop? Or that it's not possible to get 0 toe with close to -2.5* camber in the rear without adjustability?

jvincent 01-09-2017 05:37 PM

You didn't mention how much you were planning to drop the car, so you might not get the rear camber you want.

Since there is no camber adjustment in the rear the only way to get there, or to match the camber precisely on the rears, is with an LCA.

Lunatic 01-09-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2828378)
This is the most common feedback we see. They ride approximately similar to stock, but offer substantially improved response to driver input, resulting in increased cornering confidence.

Mike, what coil overs are you using on your new personal car?

CSG Mike 01-09-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lunatic (Post 2828464)
Mike, what coil overs are you using on your new personal car?

Tein Flex A Prototype at the moment, JRZ RS2 in 2 weeks.

hpde_addict 01-09-2017 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jvincent (Post 2828455)
You didn't mention how much you were planning to drop the car, so you might not get the rear camber you want.

Since there is no camber adjustment in the rear the only way to get there, or to match the camber precisely on the rears, is with an LCA.

Most likely a 1.4" drop, as recommended. Based on my estimates (wasn't able to search an exact scenario to mine), it would be close to 2.5-3.0 camber in the rear with 0 toe. Worst case, the shop has SPL LCA's in stock.

Lunatic 01-09-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2828470)
Tein Flex A Prototype at the moment, JRZ RS2 in 2 weeks.

Thanks, PM sent

PandaSPUR 01-10-2017 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hpde_addict (Post 2828477)
Most likely a 1.4" drop, as recommended. Based on my estimates (wasn't able to search an exact scenario to mine), it would be close to 2.5-3.0 camber in the rear with 0 toe. Worst case, the shop has SPL LCA's in stock.

I have the SPC LCAs for mine, real affordable but I've heard good things bout it. I think im at 2.4 camber in the rear, needed it to fit my 255/40 tires.


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