GTWORX/BILSTEIN Trophy Cup Coilovers
 

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d3&oe=58E2D13A

GTWORX is proud to introduce their first height adjustable coilover for the Subaru WRX/STI and BRZ. Built in a partnership with Bilstein, a world leader in monotube gas pressure shock absorbers, the new GTWORX Trophy Cup coilovers are an exciting new option at an attractive price for Subaru track day enthusiasts and weekend warriors.

Featuring linear main springs, tender springs, and preset digressive damping, the GTWORX Trophy Cup coilovers allow the user to focus on driving instead of worrying about complicated adjustments. Designed to offer a comfortable ride and thrilling performance, the Bilstein components also ensure long-lasting function and unmatched durability. A limited lifetime warranty means worry-free ownership of a rebuildable and revalveable shock.

GTWORX Trophy Cup Coilovers can be used with stock top mounts or optional camber plates.

* BILSTEIN-Triple-C-Technology®
* Ride height adjustable/fixed damping
* 400lbs/in springs Front and Rear (7kg/mm) (using SWIFT springs on BRZ/FRS)
* Inverted Monotube Front/Monotube rear
* Limited Lifetime Warranty

FITMENT:
BRZ/FRS
08-14 STI
15-17 WRX/STI

The valving on these is very different than Bilstein B14 and B16, which are both quite soft in terms of damping and springs. Regular Bilstein B14 would not IMO support 400 lbs/in springs and even with B16 (PSS10) you would be at the upper end of adjustment. We got these dialed in really well...very daily drivable and great on the track with Bilstein durability.

Let me know if you have any questions. :)

- Andrew

Nice! Has a price been established for them yet?

How do these compare to the RCE T2's with 400lb/in springs for both DD and track use? I don't see this set on your website yet - what is the pricing like?

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post pricing here in the tech forum, so PM for that. It will be up on the website soon.

The T2s are a little more track capable...the 2 way damping adjustment flexibility lets you set them more aggressively and get more compression damping. And of course you can turn them down for the street easily. As a DD with the T2s on all soft settings both do very well, maybe a slight edge to the Bilsteins but not by much (essentially a toss up).

- Andrew

You have a PM, thanks!

Hmm. Wording on fitment confuses me a bit. Surely there are specific ones made for cars listed, not one kit for all of them?
BTW, what might be shock minimum drop & travel vs stock for these?

Yes it's a specific BRZ application of course! Not one for all 3 cars. :)

I'm already at home for the day but I'll get you the minimum drop and total travel when I get back in on Monday.

- Andrew

Excellent! Are these available now? Price? :D

Since the damping is fixed, is this essentially like a firmer RCE Tarmac 0?

Subscribed :)

NLSP - From the other thread:

see post from @toraider

- Andrew

First sets coming in a few weeks. PM for price. :)

We're pretty pumped about the response from everybody! We're excited about these too.

- Andrew

PM'd for pricing!

PM sent for price!

Someone in SoCal get these, I want to compare them to my Tarmac 1s. Haha.

@Racecomp Engineering Can you tell us how the travel on these compares to OEM? I know with the Ohlins people aren't happy with the lack of rear travel, and I've ridden in another BRZ where I felt like rear travel was limited on slightly shorter springs.

Waiting for more spec info on ride height, price, and availability.

Since they're B14 based, yes they will be rear travel limited if you bolt onto the OE top hats and OE LCA. Like, with the OE bumpstop Bilstein has you re-use, if you're any lower than about 1/2" than stock you're into the bump stop just sitting still iirc, and I might be remembering generously. I measured travel on my B14's, and from an OE height of 26.5" (fender to ground) they bottom out at ~24.3", but I need to do those measurements again, my surface wasn't level and I rode around with them installed wrong with a spacer limiting travel which should be worth at least a 1/4" of wheel travel. So if you want to drop this thing 2" you'll have 1/2" of bump travel.

I don't think it's worth not considering these, just that these aren't the coils to drop the thing >1" and go racing without grabbing top hats or an LCA that adds some bump travel, and I'm not too aware of any coilover that is proven to solve that. In this realm few of us have the ability to assess what is necessary and 'correct', too many variables. I'm curious what GTW is going to do with the bumpstops on these things, advise cutting X" off OE, provide their own, if the front is the same that Bilstein puts on their B14, etc.

Have these released for the FRS/BRZ/86 yet? Just found this thread and I'm really interested.

So......how much longer do we have to wait?

When can we haz?

Guys I've got some bad news. We've been delayed to the end of the year. Seriously bummed about it...this was outside of our control and just one of the facts of being a group of niche USDMs guy in a niche market. They're coming, but we're now optimistically hoping for December.

We really really like how these turned out AND we were blown away by the interest in these. To now have to wait so much longer to get them out to everyone is a little bit painful. If you were seriously interested in these, let me know and I'll try to make it up to you.

:(

- Andrew

Thank you for the update, Andrew. I was about to pester you via pm to discuss pricing when I saw your post. I'm out of the country until Sept anyways, so I'll wait to bug you about it until Christmas gets closer.

I was really looking forward to these!! I have two locals who asked if I'd install them when they came out, already!

Do you think the closest comparable offering to point them in is the T2?

I've setup a few sets of the V3's, and one of them had takeoff springs from the T2 and they were quite nice.

The T2s are a little bit more track focused with some extra flexibility due to the 2 way damper adjustment. You can set them to feel "close" to the Bilsteins on the street but also set them for more of a track edge. Bit of a jump in price though.

Our T0 would be the closest IMO. The T0 have more compression damping and slightly softer springs. Not quite as good as the Bilsteins on track, but they are actually very good for auto-x.

- Andrew

Got it, that makes sense.

So these are sort of a half way, then.

Would the T0 with a bit more spring be a comparable setup that could be facilitated through you guys upon request?

Yup! I'll PM you.

- Andrew

For curiosity's sake...

Is it supply problems with Bilstein or something else? It's probably just my skewed perspective, but it seems like you have no problems with the WRX/Impreza side of things while us FRS/BRZ guys constantly get the short end of the stick.

Also, any chance for a GTWORX Bilstein fixed perch spring/damper kit down the road?

So we had 3 projects with Bilstein going on at the same time, 2 for Impreza and these for FRS/BRZ. These were finalized last, due to the switch to Swift springs (our Impreza kits do not use Swift). So they were at the back of our list, and then Bilstein picked those to bump back unexpectedly.

We would do a GTWORX Bilstein fixed perch kit if there is enough interest.

- Andrew

I am bummed about this as well; was ready to preorder these for a mid-season upgrade. I've been talking pretty heavily with @Pat about my next move and these were at the top of the list, they would likely be ideal for my street/track/budget needs. Good things are worth waiting for!

<quote> GTWORX Bilstein fixed perch</quote>
Due to legalities in my neck of the woods, this is really relevant to my interests.

Just have to say I had my Bilstein Coilovers Revalved on my own and my goodness they are fantastic, its a shame that these have been delayed but when they come out they will unbelievable value for money!!!

I have the Bilstein B16 which were revalved for Swift 8k springs square, Ive done a few track days on them and my first ever autox and everyone who rode along couldn't care a less about my new supercharger and instead focused on how nice the suspension felt and handled the car!!!


Bilstein is very high quality, RCE is very high quality, together i don't think much in the price range could beat it as an all around coil!!!

Bump. Patiently waiting .

Ok, it's getting close to the end of the year now. Do we have any updates?

Also, any more thought on offering a fixed perch GTWORX option?

I'm thinking of getting a set of B16's and having Bilstein US revalve them as well. Would you mind sharing the ID and length of your Swift springs? Are you using tenders? If so, what length and rate? How much lower are you than stock?

Thank you!

I believe I have 8” springs with the 60mm ID. No helper springs, if I end up keeping car over winter I will get helpers next season and move to a 7” spring. I’m not too low on the coils as i have top mounts that lower the car about an inch I believe on front and rear which puts me about 1.25” lower than stock

$1800 and not adjustable? Wut?

If you think $1,800 is too much... http://counterspacegarage.com/penske...-frs-gt86.html :lol: