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TylerLieberman 01-05-2017 12:52 PM

2018 WRX/STI Refresh
 
Official release from Subaru

http://media.subaru.com/newsrelease.do?id=1067&mid=1


Highlights:

-Revised front styling for a more aggressive look
-Suspension optimized for better handling and ride comfort
-New 19-inch wheels, upgraded 6 piston Brembo® brakes and revised DCCD All-Wheel Drive give WRX STI wider performance envelope
-New available Recaro® power seats
-Performance Package option for WRX models
-New EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology safety features
-Upgraded interior materials and quieter cabin

strat61caster 01-05-2017 01:53 PM

Fluff.

Wonder what's the problem with a 300hp FA20 in North America.

Maybe Subaru still hasn't quite nailed down their DI...

funwheeldrive 01-05-2017 01:59 PM

Looks nice. Sounds heavy though

TylerLieberman 01-05-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2825795)
Fluff.

Wonder what's the problem with a 300hp FA20 in North America.

Maybe Subaru still hasn't quite nailed down their DI...

IF we get an FA20 powered STI here, I suspect it won't be until the 2020 MY car. That's just speculation though.

DatsunDimer 01-05-2017 02:03 PM

^^ Concur

weederr33 01-05-2017 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2825795)
Fluff.

Wonder what's the problem with a 300hp FA20 in North America.

Maybe Subaru still hasn't quite nailed down their DI...

I'm still waiting for the WRX hatchback :bonk:

gramicci101 01-05-2017 02:12 PM

Quote:

this model’s first-ever 19-inch wheels.
How is this a performance improvement? Especially when the tires are still 245's.
Quote:

The 19-inch alloy wheels feature a striking Y-shaped spoke design and carry 245/35R19 tires that help raise cornering performance while giving the STI an even more aggressive stance.
It isn't difficult to have a more aggressive stance when the previous year's wheels had a +55 offset.

weederr33 01-05-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2825803)
IF we get an FA20 powered STI here, I suspect it won't be until the 2020 MY car. That's just speculation though.

Isn't the "next generation" due in 2020? Also would be nice to see how hard Subaru can push the FA20.

Tcoat 01-05-2017 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2825808)
I'm still waiting for the WRX hatchback :bonk:

Hey, the 18 has back seat cup holders and "faster" trunk opening isn't that close enough?

menikmati 01-05-2017 02:40 PM

EJ motor = do not want.

TylerLieberman 01-05-2017 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2825816)
How is this a performance improvement? Especially when the tires are still 245's.

It isn't difficult to have a more aggressive stance when the previous year's wheels had a +55 offset.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of the 19s, but I am a fan of the larger brakes. I hope 19s aren't required to clear the calipers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2825843)
Isn't the "next generation" due in 2020? Also would be nice to see how hard Subaru can push the FA20.

Yes. I'll continue to remain skeptical until I see the FA is capable of holding higher power levels reliably. I'm not caught up on numbers, but I'd be totally content with just a small bump to say 320hp or so. Gimme that with forged internals and a CF roof and driveshaft, and I'd probably trade mine in a heartbeat.

I have little faith though :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by menikmati (Post 2825848)
EJ motor = do not want.

I'll take the EJ over the FA20DIT any day of the week.

strat61caster 01-05-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 2825816)
How is this a performance improvement? Especially when the tires are still 245's.

*sales performance

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2825843)
Isn't the "next generation" due in 2020? Also would be nice to see how hard Subaru can push the FA20.

296hp/295 ft-lbs in JDM for the past ~4 years.
Wiki only lists the Legacy and Levorg, but I'm positive it's in the STI as well, just can't find a nice source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._engines#FA20F

Too lazy to find something better so here's MotorAuthority claiming 305/311

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ype-s-in-japan

weederr33 01-05-2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2825850)
Agreed. I'm not a fan of the 19s, but I am a fan of the larger brakes. I hope 19s aren't required to clear the calipers.



Yes. I'll continue to remain skeptical until I see the FA is capable of holding higher power levels reliably. I'm not caught up on numbers, but I'd be totally content with just a small bump to say 320hp or so. Gimme that with forged internals and a CF roof and driveshaft, and I'd probably trade mine in a heartbeat.

I have little faith though :lol:



I'll take the EJ over the FA20DIT any day of the week.

320 is a proper number. Don't need to be some dyno queen like the RS. I mean, when I build my FRS motor, I don't want anything more than 325. haha.

And why EJ>FA?

TylerLieberman 01-05-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2825863)
320 is a proper number. Don't need to be some dyno queen like the RS. I mean, when I build my FRS motor, I don't want anything more than 325. haha.

And why EJ>FA?

When going from the EJ to the FA, you're just trading one weakness for others. Aside from better fuel economy, there's no real benefit to the new engine. EJs are known to have ringlands or bearings go. FAs have seen the same issues, plus rod failures when modified. It isn't really an upgrade; you're just picking which failures you'd prefer to have lol.

Furthermore, it sounds gross (subjective) and falls on its face at higher RPMs.

Now, if they gave us an FA20DIT that utilized forged internals, better cooling, and more top end power, while increasing reliabilty/durability, I'd be on board. Until that day comes though, I'll stick with the EJ.


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