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azynneo 12-26-2016 05:38 PM

Smells like unburnt fuel
 
So today I let the car go past E, filled the car up and now I've been smelling unburnt fuel for 20 miles and hasn't gone away yet.

I have an aftermarket fuelpump and injectors, didn't smell any fuel from the engine bay but smelling fuel near the rear. Anyone's guess?

stevesnj 12-26-2016 05:44 PM

make sure the gas cap is on, if it is turn it counter clockwise a hair until you feel the cap lid loosen not the cap itself. Or remove the cap slowly to remove any pressure. Check all around the fuel system for drips.

guybo 12-26-2016 06:19 PM

It could be an issue with your evap system. Is the CEL on? Have you checked codes?

azynneo 12-26-2016 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2820833)
It could be an issue with your evap system. Is the CEL on? Have you checked codes?

CEL's not on

humfrz 12-26-2016 07:06 PM

Oh, maybe it was soo thirsty, that when you filled it, some gas spilt over the filler tube and that's what you're smelling.

I wouldn't worry about it unless the smell persists or you get a light...:)


humfrz

azynneo 12-26-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2820855)
Oh, maybe it was soo thirsty, that when you filled it, some gas spilt over the filler tube and that's what you're smelling.

I wouldn't worry about it unless the smell persists or you get a light...:)


humfrz

<_< I feel like I'm being trolled here

humfrz 12-26-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2820866)
<_< I feel like I'm being trolled here

I'm sorry you feel that way. That's not my intent ...... sometimes, I just joke around a bit ...... ;)

Please let me explain, if you overfilled the tank, either by forcing fill past the click off on the nozzle or the pump just malfunctions and doesn't shut off ...... some fuel can slip past the filler tube into the fender well area. Gasoline trapped in there can take a while to evaporate and can smell for some time, especially in colder weather.

PS - I don't troll people ...... sometimes I pull their leg or yank their chain .... but do not troll ..... :)


humfrz

azynneo 12-26-2016 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2820871)
I'm sorry you feel that way. That's not my intent ...... sometimes, I just joke around a bit ...... ;)

Please let me explain, if you overfilled the tank, either by forcing fill past the click off on the nozzle or the pump just malfunctions and doesn't shut off ...... some fuel can slip past the filler tube into the fender well area. Gasoline trapped in there can take a while to evaporate and can smell for some time, especially in colder weather.

PS - I don't troll people ...... sometimes I pull their leg or yank their chain .... but do not troll ..... :)


humfrz

Ah, gotcha. I'll update you to see if the smell goes away I got a diffuser stuck down there so kinda hard to check if fuel is leaking around the pump.

azynneo 01-07-2017 01:47 PM

smell the fuel again, this time I see fuel leaking rear driver side

a little information about the car, I do have an aftermarket fuel pump and injectors.

Teseo 01-07-2017 01:58 PM

Check fuel lines, injectors connection and fuel pump while engine running

azynneo 01-07-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2827131)
Check fuel lines, injectors connection and fuel pump while engine running

all fine, I just turned my car on without starting it and noticed a huge ass leak like a liter of fuel dripping out of my car as I moved it down the hill.

cjd 01-07-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2827151)
all fine, I just turned my car on without starting it and noticed a huge ass leak like a liter of fuel dripping out of my car as I moved it down the hill.

Somehow I'm convinced that all is NOT fine... find that leak! And be very careful.

Teseo 01-07-2017 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2827162)
Somehow I'm convinced that all is NOT fine... find that leak! And be very careful.

My dad used to find gas leak while smoking, talk about safety

azynneo 01-07-2017 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2827169)
My dad used to find gas leak while smoking, talk about safety

checked all the lines, also brought it to toyota as well to check, couldn't find a leak but they could definitely unburnt fuel. The leak only happens on cold starts and right after I fill up my tank.

cjd 01-07-2017 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2827336)
checked all the lines, also brought it to toyota as well to check, couldn't find a leak but they could definitely unburnt fuel. The leak only happens on cold starts and right after I fill up my tank.

You mentioned an aftermarket fuel pump; how is it installed?

I'd start looking there; something like it spews fuel out a breather if the tank level is too high, or something - I'm guessing without knowing much about the fueling setup in the car, let alone what you have.

azynneo 01-07-2017 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjd (Post 2827340)
You mentioned an aftermarket fuel pump; how is it installed?

I'd start looking there; something like it spews fuel out a breather if the tank level is too high, or something - I'm guessing without knowing much about the fueling setup in the car, let alone what you have.

csg installed the pump, already gave David a holler waiting for a response

Ultramaroon 01-07-2017 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2827151)
all fine, I just turned my car on without starting it and noticed a huge ass leak like a liter of fuel dripping out of my car as I moved it down the hill.

Fuel pump runs when you turn on the ignition. I believe it only shuts off after ecu detects target fuel pressure on the low pressure rail. If you have a leak [maybe] the pump just keeps going. The access panel is glued on underneath the left rear seat.

Or maybe it's a slow leak. A liter?

edit: Clarified intent to suggest possibility, not to state as fact. What the hell do I know?

humfrz 01-07-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2827169)
My dad used to find gas leak while smoking, talk about safety

Huffing gas while smoking cigarettes ....... ahhhh, the good old days ...... :D


humfrz

guybo 01-07-2017 11:06 PM

check the hoses around the evap cannister. It could be the rollover valve too. I'm betting that when the new fueling system was put in they missed a hose or the rollover valve was stuck open.

Crazy question- when you fuel up, does the fuel fill click off (when the tank is full) like it did before the new fuel pump was installed?

azynneo 01-08-2017 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2827373)
check the hoses around the evap cannister. It could be the rollover valve too. I'm betting that when the new fueling system was put in they missed a hose or the rollover valve was stuck open.

Crazy question- when you fuel up, does the fuel fill click off (when the tank is full) like it did before the new fuel pump was installed?


Yeah it clicks

azynneo 01-11-2017 11:52 PM

update now happens every morning upon startup leaves puddle of fuel. Tried contacting csg but too slow to respond. Brought it to a Toyota dealership and they can't find a problem. Anyone know the cost to fix a gasket for the fuel tank? if that is the case.

JoeC 01-12-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by azynneo (Post 2830406)
update now happens every morning upon startup leaves puddle of fuel. Tried contacting csg but too slow to respond. Brought it to a Toyota dealership and they can't find a problem. Anyone know the cost to fix a gasket for the fuel tank? if that is the case.

every morning and you're still driving it, huh? after a month? we're talking about gasoline right? like you're car's leaking gas and you're still driving it every day? I can't possibly be understanding this correctly.

Scrappydoo 01-12-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 2830811)
every morning and you're still driving it, huh? after a month? we're talking about gasoline right? like you're car's leaking gas and you're still driving it every day? I can't possibly be understanding this correctly.

What's your point?

Silver Cervy 01-12-2017 05:34 PM

Only thing I can suggest is to have someone raise the car up and get the leak to occur, then just trace it to it's exact location and diagnose from there. From everything you've said I want to say it's the tank itself but it's mainly covered by protection pans, which means that if it really is the tank then it's a much worse leak than it looks like because the unburned fuel is pooling inside the pan and slowly leaking through. That could explain why you're always smelling unburned fuel in the back. That still wouldn't explain why the leaking only occurs at specific times and isn't constant, though.

Perhaps the tank is leaking constantly. Is your fuel gauge dropping suddenly between every drive? Is there always a pool of fuel when you start up and move? Or is it only when you start up in the morning and fill up the tank like you said?

Scrappydoo 01-12-2017 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Cervy (Post 2830907)
Only thing I can suggest is to have someone raise the car up and get the leak to occur, then just trace it to it's exact location and diagnose from there. From everything you've said I want to say it's the tank itself but it's mainly covered by protection pans, which means that if it really is the tank then it's a much worse leak than it looks like because the unburned fuel is pooling inside the pan and slowly leaking through. That could explain why you're always smelling unburned fuel in the back. That still wouldn't explain why the leaking only occurs at specific times and isn't constant, though.

Perhaps the tank is leaking constantly. Is your fuel gauge dropping suddenly between every drive? Is there always a pool of fuel when you start up and move? Or is it only when you start up in the morning and fill up the tank like you said?


He has had it checked by a Toyota dealer

Silver Cervy 01-12-2017 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2830909)
He has had it checked by a Toyota dealer

He never said that they looked at the tank, though. If the leak only happens at the specific times he mentioned then Toyota wouldn't have seen it. The fact that he hasn't mentioned the exact spot where the fuel is leaking means that neither he nor Toyota have found it yet.

Scrappydoo 01-12-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Cervy (Post 2830914)
He never said that they looked at the tank, though. If the leak only happens at the specific times he mentioned then Toyota wouldn't have seen it. The fact that he hasn't mentioned the exact spot where the fuel is leaking means that neither he nor Toyota have found it yet.

He never said that they didn't look at the tank either.

azynneo 01-12-2017 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Cervy (Post 2830907)
Only thing I can suggest is to have someone raise the car up and get the leak to occur, then just trace it to it's exact location and diagnose from there. From everything you've said I want to say it's the tank itself but it's mainly covered by protection pans, which means that if it really is the tank then it's a much worse leak than it looks like because the unburned fuel is pooling inside the pan and slowly leaking through. That could explain why you're always smelling unburned fuel in the back. That still wouldn't explain why the leaking only occurs at specific times and isn't constant, though.

Perhaps the tank is leaking constantly. Is your fuel gauge dropping suddenly between every drive? Is there always a pool of fuel when you start up and move? Or is it only when you start up in the morning and fill up the tank like you said?

I only get a leak during start up and before it warms up small drops of gas til it's completely warmed.

Scrappydoo 01-12-2017 06:07 PM

Sure it's not condensation from your exhaust system

Cockatoo 01-12-2017 06:17 PM

Is the fuel pump recently installed? If so, then it makes sense its leaking when you fill it up because it is not sealed correctly.

Scrappydoo 01-12-2017 06:20 PM

Wouldn't you likely smell it inside the car then

JoeC 01-12-2017 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2830904)
What's your point?

my point is if I understand the situation correctly and the car is leaking that much gas the owner shouldn't be driving it until it was fixed.

Scrappydoo 01-13-2017 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC (Post 2831062)
my point is if I understand the situation correctly and the car is leaking that much gas the owner shouldn't be driving it until it was fixed.

Commas and capitalisation?

The owner is clearly clueless and/or click bait and your jumping into with your excruciatingly bad grammar.

How is that helping things?

Silver Cervy 01-13-2017 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2831728)
Commas and capitalisation?

The owner is clearly clueless and/or click bait and your jumping into with your excruciatingly bad grammar.

How is that helping things?

Your uncalled-for rudeness isn't helping things, that's for sure.

JoeC 01-13-2017 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2831728)
Commas and capitalisation?

The owner is clearly clueless and/or click bait and your jumping into with your excruciatingly bad grammar.

How is that helping things?

I guess I could have used a comma, but I'm not sure how to apply capitalisation.

Unfortunately, I'm also "jumping into" and I'm not sure what to do with your subject-less preposition.

:lol:

humfrz 01-13-2017 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2831728)
Commas and capitalisation?

The owner is clearly clueless and/or click bait and your jumping into with your excruciatingly bad grammar.

How is that helping things?

:slap: ........ maybe THAT will help YOU ...... :D


humfrz

Ultramaroon 01-17-2017 11:08 PM

I'll just leave this here.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...3&d=1484658761

Bowen 01-18-2017 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2833919)

What's the story behind this poor soul? 😢

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Ultramaroon 01-18-2017 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowen (Post 2833969)
What's the story behind this poor soul? 😢

Dunno. Pic's from a troll thread. Seemed apropos to this real thread.

Lantana frs 01-18-2017 03:40 PM

That's how your car looks when the sheriff rescues it from the speed shop.


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