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Jackola 12-25-2016 05:03 PM

How bad is it?
 
Hello!
I did something stupid last friday and reversed into another car at my parking spot at home. Theres no dents or missaligned parts only paint scratched.

Is this something that can be fixed or is it re-spray?

http://i.imgur.com/MZPg3sf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HmP4LGv.jpg

Magyarman 12-25-2016 06:41 PM

Well those scratches are pretty deep , even removing paint. there are scratch removers that may remove some but not all scratches. For the deep stuff ,there are paint pens that will fill the scratches,but at certain angles will show up as a not so good touchup job.

You might take a look at what Consumer Reports here in the US likes,they have YouTube videos about their application.

They said that Quixx paint scratch remover worked the best in their tests.

I also looked at youtube videos using WD-40 ,3000-5000 grit sandpaper/swirl-scratch polish and toothpaste--results questionable for WD-40,the toothpaste looked promising! The sandpaper/polish looked pretty good.

I suspect if you can't live with the results you get, a body shop is the only option left.

Above 20 mph it's hard to tell a touchup and at 60 mph it's invisIble !!!

Best of luck to you and Happy New Year to you and yours !!!

turtlefeeder 12-25-2016 07:41 PM

Acetone and a piece of microfiber cloth and try to wipe off what you can. Than see how bad it actually is. Hopefully you could rub it all off because it didn't look like it scraped out the plastic

stevesnj 12-25-2016 08:33 PM

Take it to a body shop. They will give a free estimate. If cost is a factor ask them if it can be machine compounded or wet sanded.

Junkman2008 12-26-2016 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Magyarman (Post 2820542)
Well those scratches are pretty deep , even removing paint. there are scratch removers that may remove some but not all scratches. For the deep stuff ,there are paint pens that will fill the scratches,but at certain angles will show up as a not so good touchup job.

"Not so good" is a understatement. It will look like a 5-year old fixed it.

Most of that will buff out but definitely not all of it. It can be made to look a lot less noticeable but that damage is going to require a repaint. Once you have removed the clear coat and gotten into the paint, all the buffing in the world ain't gonna fix it. Nothing fixes missing paint but more paint and the LAST thing I would use is a touch up pen.

Just to give you an idea as to what can be fixed, here's an undercover police car that a buddy of mine was driving when someone hit it.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...i_damage_1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...i_damage_2.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...i_damage_3.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...i_damage_4.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...i_damage_5.jpg

Damage like this is going to require a more aggressive polisher than the PC-7424XP if you want to fix it sometime this week. At the same time, a rotary polisher could have easily MELTED this rear fascia considering how flexible it is. Since he was in a hurry, I had to just blast the job out. So I broke out some 3M Perfect-It™ I Rubbing Compound, 3M Perfect-It™ II Machine Polish, a flat surfaced green pad, a flat surfaced white pad and my trusty ol' Flex-3401VRG.

A couple of things to note. Normally I would have washed and clayed that area, and wet sanded that remaining scratch out of the paint. However, due to time restraints, I just did the "hook a brutha' up" repair. If you saw the finished product, you wouldn't have ever known that this car was in an accident. I told him to make sure that he reported it to Car Fax. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mileys/lol.gif

Here's the final results.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_fixed_1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_fixed_2.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_fixed_3.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_fixed_4.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_fixed_5.jpg


And because you all know that I never fake the funk, here's the flash test.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_flash_1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_flash_2.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mi_flash_3.jpg

The Junkman

Jackola 12-26-2016 08:47 AM

So if theres missing paint should i just leave it for insurance? I guess it's gonna cost me a lot more fixing this outside of insurance work.

Junkman2008 12-26-2016 01:09 PM

Like I said before, the ONLY way to fix missing paint is more paint. You can't buff paint back onto the car. It doesn't work that way.

Ernest72 12-26-2016 08:37 PM

How perfect do you need your car to be? If it was me I would at least try to fix myself with polish/compound to see how much comes off and how it looks. Then make a decision on whether a careful touch-up paint job could do it or you need an expensive respray. Just hope you don't have bad luck like pay to fix it and have someone hit it in the parking lot and drive off. I have had two bumper rubs like that. Luckily light rubs that I fixed myself. Good luck.

Junkman2008 12-26-2016 10:08 PM

Any amateur who uses a touch-up pen is going to have a repair that looks like a 5-year old did it. Add to that, the area that is damaged in THIS situation is WAY too large for a touch-up pen fix. If you use a touch-up to try and fix this much damage, it's a sign that you have no clue as to what you are doing.

Jackola 12-30-2016 01:06 PM

Filed the damage for insurance and its going to cost me about 800$ to fix it up.

ayyyypex 01-07-2017 01:33 AM

obviously cant see how deep some of that is. if youre looking to save money, the quarter should buff out after a wetsand. The bumper is missing paint. Have a bodyshop do a blow in on that area only and spot repair it into the bumper line. After the paints cured you can buff it and itll be fine. Itll cost you much less and wont take long than an hour. We do a lot of cars like these where everything is perfectly fine except for a small scratch which cant be buffed. Spot repair will save you a good amount of money and time.

Junkman2008 01-07-2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayyyypex (Post 2826983)
obviously cant see how deep some of that is. if youre looking to save money, the quarter should buff out after a wetsand. The bumper is missing paint. Have a bodyshop do a blow in on that area only and spot repair it into the bumper line. After the paints cured you can buff it and itll be fine. Itll cost you much less and wont take long than an hour. We do a lot of cars like these where everything is perfectly fine except for a small scratch which cant be buffed. Spot repair will save you a good amount of money and time.

You're suggest to a guy to wet sand his car when he has no idea about wet sanding? That's like advising a guy to land a plane because the pilot has passed out.

brianhj 01-09-2017 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 2827090)
You're suggest to a guy to wet sand his car when he has no idea about wet sanding? That's like advising a guy to land a plane because the pilot has passed out.

Is this the same Junkman from youtube land? I'm assuming so since it says on your profile you drive a Corvette. Your videos are awesome :thumbsup:

Ok carry on

EDIT: Nevermind just noticed you posted photos above haha

Dadhawk 01-09-2017 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 2827090)
You're suggest to a guy to wet sand his car when he has no idea about wet sanding? That's like advising a guy to land a plane because the pilot has passed out.

Well, as a pilot I'd have to say that is pretty good advice. The plane ain't gonna land itself (well, at least most of them won't) and someone can be walked through it if they stay calm.

(But I do whole heartedly agree with your point about the wet sanding)


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