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nmctacticz 12-24-2016 05:21 PM

LQ4 V8 Swap
 
Hey guys hopefully you can help me out
Ive been wanting to do an engine swap for a while now. I have the money put aside and im keeping this under $10,000. Theres obviously alot of questions raising in my head. First off, although Im still leasing the car I do want to buy the car off in the end. Is this going to be a problem? (This seems like a dumb question and the answer is probably YES) anyhow...
I got my hands on a LQ4 V8 6.0L engine which came from a 2004 Chevy Tahoe (decently cheap) $1500
The plan is to completely strip and rebuild the engine. LS3 camshaft and push rods, LS3 cylinder heads, LS3 intake etc) From my research I know the LQ4 iron block is super reliable and handles boost pretty good. The reason why I went with LQ4 is because its a cheaper platform and has similar potential... everyone seems to go with 2JZ or LS1, LS2 etc engines but I've decided to take my own route on this one.
My question is has anyone ever done this kind of swap before? Using an Iron block v8 platform, What precautions should I take and what power am I to expect? Any tranmission suggestions? Etc

Summerwolf 12-24-2016 06:58 PM

You..... need to do a LOT of research.

nmctacticz 12-24-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2820271)
You..... need to do a LOT of research.

Thanks tips... im trying.... ur comments are not helping nor educating me

Leonardo 12-24-2016 07:38 PM

Here is my advice: Pay your car off. Then sell the silverado engine and buy a LS engine. They build hp and tq differently than the LS motors. Have not heard of someone using a old nissan transmission either.

Now, you will probably need, ballpark figure here another 15k. If not more.

Engine swaps are expensive. Keep reading and saving. Good luck.

gramicci101 12-24-2016 07:50 PM

Also, if you want to do a swap that no one or very few people have ever done, then everything will need to be custom made. Engine mounts, bell housing adapter plates, driveshaft, wiring harness integration, cooling solution, exhaust, suspension, etc... The word "custom" adds at minimum a few thousand to the price tag. Hopefully your mechanic is a talented fabricator, because otherwise "custom" can also mean "shoddy."

If you really want to do an engine swap and you want it to work right the first time instead of spending a long time troublshooting and re-fabricating, you would be better served to go with something that a kit has been developed for, such as an LS engine. Plus, the LQ4 weighs about 100 lbs more than an LS. That much additional weight in the front will have a significant effect on handling.

It would be easier and cheaper to go to Full Blown, get a built FA20 block, heads, and turbo kit, then go to Jack's Transmissions and get an upgraded gearset for your transmission. You'd make just as much power, if not more, and the difficulty level would be dramatically less.

Marat 12-24-2016 07:50 PM

sell the LQ, get an LS and T56. If you want to go the Z tranny route, look into CD009, but i'm not sure how different it is from T56 size wise so fitting it into the FRS might require custom work to the tunnel. Personally I'd go with a T56.

Summerwolf 12-24-2016 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nmctacticz (Post 2820274)
Thanks tips... im trying.... ur comments are not helping nor educating me

Good.

Google and ls1tech is your friend. There are many many differences between the ls1 and the lq4. First is displacement. Second is iron block as opposed to aluminum. Personally in a lightweight car like the twin I would hold out for an aluminum block.

.... you are most likely in over your head, and so is the mechanic that is hoping to do this swap.

Check out the multiple ls swap threads here and see the issues people run in to. Have another car and a lot of money on hand if you're seriously attempting this.

wutsaiu 12-25-2016 01:32 AM

There is a guy who lives close to you who did a LS V8 swap on his FRS.
He did it without any shop or help. Some say he was the first in Canada to have a V8 FRS/BRZ. Needless to say he knows a lot and could answer most of your questions. Worth a shot to ask him, you never know he might be a nice guy.

nmctacticz 12-25-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wutsaiu (Post 2820389)
There is a guy who lives close to you who did a LS V8 swap on his FRS.
He did it without any shop or help. Some say he was the first in Canada to have a V8 FRS/BRZ. Needless to say he knows a lot and could answer most of your questions. Worth a shot to ask him, you never know he might be a nice guy.

You're the guy Ive been looking for this whole time... I saw your car at a FRS/BRZ meet last year. Your car looked bone stock from outside, you had the hood of your car opened with the V8 already in there but you were no where to be found around your car so I dont think we got to talk at all.
I just PM you, hope to hear from you soon!! :cheers:

Spartarus 12-25-2016 06:38 PM

Faith in humanity restored.

wbradley 12-25-2016 07:17 PM

Imagine the look on the dealer's face when you bring the car in for minor service! Even better, returning it at end of lease.

nmctacticz 12-25-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2820548)
Imagine the look on the dealer's face when you bring the car in for minor service! Even better, returning it at end of lease.

I wouldnt be taking my car to toyota for service after an engine swap lool
:bonk:

wbradley 12-25-2016 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nmctacticz (Post 2820570)
I wouldnt be taking my car to toyota for service after an engine swap lool
:bonk:

Even if you go to the dealer, you wouldn't be taking "your car". That's the point, the car belongs to Toyota.

Tokay444 12-25-2016 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmctacticz (Post 2820486)
You're the guy Ive been looking for this whole time... I saw your car at a FRS/BRZ meet last year. Your car looked bone stock from outside, you had the hood of your car opened with the V8 already in there but you were no where to be found around your car so I dont think we got to talk at all.
I just PM you, hope to hear from you soon!! :cheers:

He's not the one with the swap...


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