So what, Richard! The kid was lucky enough to have a car bought for him. I'm sure you would have turned it down if your Dad bought you a car. Yeah right. My ass...

You're always bitching at the younger crowd on here. STFU for once!

EDIT: Yes it's worth tuning an AT lol

Yes they do, why do you think Ferrari, McLaren and Lamborghini owners don't get any babes?
They are passing them up for the manual gearbox owning Scion, Nissan and Subaru owners.

I had an ultramarine blue and I got looked at by all kinds of people.

I thought it was just me :) I get the same kind of attention, but I don't care. I love this car.

That is because you have the "Firestone" red instead of the more standard Firestorm red. Nobody likes a tire coloured car.


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Noticed this too, but I dont think it has anything to do with the specific type of car. I think girls are just less likely to approach or talk to random guys on the street, its like a survival instinct. Plus female car enthusiasts are rare.

My girlfriend doesnt know the difference between most car brands. She'll point out cars that she thinks looks nice, but she wouldn't go up to the driver lol.

LOL, I forgot to correct that, the sales person told me that was the color code, I learned she was wrong... but still had written it in. thanks for the reminder (sigh)

Well said. I just bought my son a 13 AT FRS. We BOTH love it.

OP, this thread brings back memories. I have had my AT WRX wagon since May 2003 and I just got an AT 16 BRZ. I have my winter and summer DD cars, both silver. Both are great cars. Modded the WRX to stage 2 with so many suspension mods. I just love it, 116k and running strong. I remember all the fanbois laughing at my AT, while they were spinning bearings because they can't drive stick for crap or did too many clutch dumps. It's your car do what you want, never do something because a bunch of idiots on the internet tell you to do it. My advice is to mod slow. Research and do one mod at a time so you can really feel the difference (or not) it makes. And remember balance, ther are so many high HP cars that can go fast in a straight line but really are not good for much else. Not saying that's not fun, but this car drives so well, don't mess it up.

please tell me how you can make 400 hp in a frs with a tune :lol:

Exactly my thoughts been enjoying my 15 AT FRS zero regrets, after owning 4 MT cars.

I could have just opened it brutally and said auto sucks, but I took another path lol

That moment when a guy on the internet tells you not to take advice from the internet, then gives advice.

On the internet.

SMH.

if you read it in context then you would know in this case he meant car tuning as in the general modification of the performance of the vehicle not tuning the engine with a tablet or shit. yes these are two different things by the way

I don't give a shit if you think the Auto sucks. It does bother me a LOT when you're always bitching about the younger generation.

If you have nothing good to say about them just STFU.

:popcorn:


.......or, is the shit storm over ......??


humfrz

BRZ owner here. (Creeping in FRS/86 forum). Have fun with your car. Mod it, tune it, etc. Mine is A/T and I am having a blast with it. Slowly adding bolt ons to mine. :)

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The car is yours, do what you want to it and enjoy it. Don't worry about what others say.
Here's my rocket bunny automatic.

This^ (although I may tease for the wing if you are not racing)


This car is the perfect example of what can be done without going over the top. That and it is an actual race car not a hardparker pretending to be one!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=69139&page=7


And as an unsolicited plug for Lun it can be had for a very reasonable price!


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113672


If looking for a weekend toy I would be all over this at that price.

Boy it's sure been a while since I up dated my build thread. Yes I did race, in the TRD Cup Time Attack. And Yes I did have my car listed For Sale. BUT, I have replaced all the metal to metal suspension with stock rubber suspension pieces hoping to smooth out the ride enough to be able to keep my car. So far so good.

Oh that is good news! You may want to update the for sale thread.

Already did.

do anything you want with your car. fuck what everyone on the forum says, their opinions mean shit. enjoy your car and have a great time. that was very nice of your dad. congrats man.

How do you feel about the manual now and what caused you to make the switch?

You guys are all forgetting the only thing we have figured out for sure... Girls just want to have fun.

Haven't met a girl yet that didn't enjoy a little rear end slippage.

Can't we be friends? :( MT and AT

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I still love the manual but I have to admit there are some days when I hit every red light possible and it can feel like a bit of a chore but I don't regret it at all and I even wish that I had originally gotten the MT! I went with the AT first as a compromise during my marriage but I went through a divorce and shortly after had a lady run a red light and total my FRS so it was only natural that I got in the position to enjoy what I originally wanted.

Or we could go on how ugly your red plastic dipped badge looks on your white FRS. :) keep the negativity to yourself :thanks:

DP3.don't know where you are in CA but if you want to drive out to Indio I'll take you for a ride, supercharged on 3-85

Tuning does give the car more spunk. But by far regearing the rearend really made a big difference in spunk factor...

Go for it man! I drive an auto and I've modded mine out I have some stuff coming in the mail as we speak! Screw anyone that gives you crap for what transmission you can pretty much do the same to both cars so have fun with it! Go RB if it makes you happy or look at varus kit they both look sexy! No matter what have fun with it!


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Amen to that. Got plans for my AT. ;)

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What ratio did you go to? I went to 4.88

How much did it cost to regear?


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I've probably driven a dozen FRS/BRZ cars at this point with mods. A/T cars and M/T cars. There is no loss in the fun factor. We aren't talking a slushbox from the 90s here. Things have come a LONG way.

Not sure how many on this forum were even driving in the 80s or 90s but that was a time when an A/T sucked and you had a reason to tease a guy who drove a project car with an A/T.

The gear set from Robert Weir was less than $300, and about $400 to have them installed if I remember right.

I didn't bother reading everything but to answer OP, yes, it's worth it. The auto isn't hardly any different than the manual. Gearing is a tiny bit different but modern automatic transmissions don't suck like they used to. You can do nearly every mod to an auto that you can to a manual (excluding short shifters and stuff like that). All parts are universal except some overpipes or frontpipes, and maybe driveshafts because the transmission is physically a different size. If the description doesn't state "manual only" you should be fine. Enjoy!

When I was looking into 4.88s my plan was to go to spencer fabrication as there was no one near me who could do it for the right price. It's around $1300 all said in done, and you swap out your diff for theirs and send yours back. Alternatively if you don't want any down time, they'll send you one for like $1700 with a $700 core charge. Well worth it in my opinion for more kick.

Hey I have (but selling) the AT and had it tuned. I had headers, an exhaust kit, intake, and cooling mods to support it. The tune got me an extra 25whp, but that honestly wasn't too noticeable. People are right when they say that the gearing can take away from that since you don't have much control over it there. What was more important is that the tune put the engine into much better operating specs for things like the AFR.

If I were to do it all again, I probably wouldn't do the headers (JDL EL catted). When I had them on, they caused the gearing to get confused if I accelerated in a way that let the revs sit around 2500 RPM. It would try and drop a gear and jump back up over and over. With the headers off, the issue wasn't there. And when watching the numbers, there were no oddities other than it trying to shift like that.

So yea, tuning is a good idea if you mod the exhaust and intake a lot (especially if you go with 3" pipes). But if you just have an intake of equal diameter and/or an axle back style exhaust that's still 2.5", you don't need a tune. The car will do just fine on its own and feel about the same.

For reference, I did track the car both with and without the tune. Running without the tune and mods felt sluggish. But as a DD you wouldn't really notice a thing.

Now if you do want to get more out of your AT, I'd recommend reading the posts on here for the valve packs that SSP Performance advertises. It seems the reviews were hit and miss depending on what people were looking for. Wish I could drive one and feel the difference. Or look at the final gear swap for the differential. People with ATs reported better feel as well when they gave it gas, but that it still drove fairly normally if they didn't.

Should also mention I'm not selling it because it's an AT. Just consolidating life at the time and I couldn't do much to the car anymore without going FI or spending thousands. Got an old truck that can tow a track car. Now it's just time to bide my time and money :burnrubber: