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imravenit 07-10-2012 11:10 PM

Thump sound after shifting.. Any ideas?
 
To begin with i have a manual trans frs with only 200miles but the problem was there since 0 miles.. i just did not pay much attention until now its kind of bugging and worrying me.. the problem is that its only noticeable on dead stop and when shifting to first gear.. I can hear and feel the THUMP or Pounding sound/feel at the rear of the car after letting go of the clutch pedal very slightly.. Has anybody here experience/hear/feel this sound? Is it normal? Is it because of hard bushings? or loose bushings? Whatever it is i just want to make sure this is normal... Thank you in advance!

Draco-REX 07-10-2012 11:18 PM

It's normal, just the internals coming to a stop. Lots of threads on this. There's even a TSB from Toyota/Subaru stating it is normal.

If it bothers you, just wait a second or so before putting it into gear and it won't thump.

imravenit 07-10-2012 11:21 PM

well the car is already at stop? So the internals should have zero rotational to begin with.. but i guess if everybody is in the same boat.. looks like we got crickets and thumping associated with this car.. Thanks

Chewie4299 07-11-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by imravenit (Post 307581)
well the car is already at stop? So the internals should have zero rotational to begin with.. but i guess if everybody is in the same boat.. looks like we got crickets and thumping associated with this car.. Thanks

This isn't true. Your transmission spins when not in gear.

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Brimford 07-11-2012 01:00 AM

Yeah this is definitely not an issue, actually its shows a good tranny and parts. I like the bump. But if you don't like it, just hold the clutch in for a few seconds before putting it into gear.

Chewie4299 07-11-2012 01:09 AM

I like the bump too. Me jeep used to do it. I find it reassuring in some way.

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imravenit 07-11-2012 01:15 AM

Sorry or the wrong information.. its totally fine for me i just wanna make sure its normal..

Sony 07-11-2012 01:29 AM

The thump you hear is the clutch friction disc coming to a sudden stop when you shift into first gear. If you shift into neutral when coming to a stop but before fully stopping, the friction disc will continue to spin for a few seconds before coming to a complete stop. If you shift into first while the friction disc is still spinning you get the thump of the disc coming to a stop whereas if you wait until you come to a complete stop before shifting into neutral you will not get the thump. You will also get the thump if you're sitting in neutral at a stoplight with your foot off the clutch, then when the light turns green you quickly put your foot on the clutch and shift to first, you will get a thump for the same reasons as I said before.

*KID* 07-11-2012 03:47 PM

Yea I noticed these cars are noisy everywhere, but its normal. motor is noisy, the fans as well, the clunking sound... but I love it for some weird reason, it gives it that track feel. as long as you dont hear something out of the ordinary your good

Sigh-on-Rice 07-11-2012 03:58 PM

I have a feeling:
I think the OP is talking about the noise after the gear is shifted into 1st gear and let the clutch go a little bit.
And everyone else is talking about the noise at the moment when the gear is shifted into the 1st gear.

Koji_Online 07-11-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 309067)
I have a feeling:
I think the OP is talking about the noise after the gear is shifted into 1st gear and let the clutch go a little bit.
And everyone else is talking about the noise at the moment when the gear is shifted into the 1st gear.

I agree based on OP statement;
Well, if you get a clunking after putting into gear & when you release the clutch a little, it could possibly be you are releasing the clutch too quickly & with not enough throttle; placing drive-train shock.
Is this your first manual car OP?

imravenit 07-11-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Koji_Online (Post 309079)
I agree based on OP statement;
Well, if you get a clunking after putting into gear & when you release the clutch a little, it could possibly be you are releasing the clutch too quickly & with not enough throttle; placing drive-train shock.
Is this your first manual car OP?


No not my first m/t car.. yes i was wondering why it makes that sound on a dead stop and after pressing on clutch and putting it to 1st gear it makes the sound.. it thumps before i even release the clutch slightly.. but im very gentle wit the clutch when releasing so idk whats the problem here.. But does everyone here experiencing this?

Chewie4299 07-11-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony (Post 307855)
The thump you hear is the clutch friction disc coming to a sudden stop when you shift into first gear. If you shift into neutral when coming to a stop but before fully stopping, the friction disc will continue to spin for a few seconds before coming to a complete stop. If you shift into first while the friction disc is still spinning you get the thump of the disc coming to a stop whereas if you wait until you come to a complete stop before shifting into neutral you will not get the thump. You will also get the thump if you're sitting in neutral at a stoplight with your foot off the clutch, then when the light turns green you quickly put your foot on the clutch and shift to first, you will get a thump for the same reasons as I said before.

This is your explanation, OP. No issue. Everyone should experience this in these conditions. Some may not notice it.

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Sigh-on-Rice 07-11-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by imravenit (Post 307554)
after letting go of the clutch pedal very slightly

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Originally Posted by imravenit (Post 309241)
before i even release the clutch slightly

I'm having a hard time trying to know when exactly it makes the noise. You said "after" letting go of the clutch on your first post, but now you're saying "before" releasing the clutch slightly.

imravenit 07-11-2012 09:01 PM

its almost seems like its inbetween and randomly not consistent.. Sometimes i feel it right when i step on clutch and putting it in 1st gear but sometimes its when i release the clutch slightly just right after i put it in 1st gear.. its somewhere in there..

Vracer111 07-11-2012 09:39 PM

Simple solution: press in the clutch...wait at least 1 second...then shift into first. Will never make a thud then...

imravenit 07-11-2012 10:49 PM

I figured ! Thanks

Sigh-on-Rice 07-12-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vracer111 (Post 309663)
Simple solution: press in the clutch...wait at least 1 second...then shift into first. Will never make a thud then...

I've been thumping for years with the other cars too. This actually works! It didn't thump even once for the whole trip! Thanks!

Vracer111 07-12-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 309987)
I've been thumping for years with the other cars too. This actually works! It didn't thump even once for the whole trip! Thanks!

Draco-REX and Brimford also mentioned this in the thread before I re-emphasized it and specifically mentioned first gear...

imravenit 07-12-2012 01:00 AM

Sometimes you grow out of it or find ways to avoid it and yes thats one way i figured how to avoid the thud.. i just cant imagine new cars would have all this problem right off the bat.. chirping, thud, rattles etc...

Symbiont 07-12-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by imravenit (Post 310097)
Sometimes you grow out of it or find ways to avoid it and yes thats one way i figured how to avoid the thud.. i just cant imagine new cars would have all this problem right off the bat.. chirping, thud, rattles etc...

I've never driven a FR car that didn't have the associated 'chunk' of an engaging driveshaft while the transmission is still in motion. o.0

denist 12-13-2012 06:40 AM

I get that noise too and a small kick from under the seat when I am in stop and get in first gear after a while. Kind what happens with motorcycles. I guess this car has been made with some motorcycle analogies like the boxer motor.

Sportsguy83 12-13-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by imravenit (Post 310097)
i just cant imagine new cars would have all this problem right off the bat.. chirping, thud, rattles etc...

They are not problems. The chirp is the DI pump (this is debatable but at least everyone can agree a big part of the noise is the DI Pump). Every car that has a DI pump is noisy like that. The thud happens virtually to all RWD cars, again not a problem its just the way it mechanically works.

The rattles, that is part of having a sportscar. Little effort was put into sound deadening and eliminating engine feel/vibration inside the cabin. This adds weight and removes driving feel. That is part of the beauty of the car. Its a return to basics type of car. Manufactures have lately spent a lot of effort into making the car lifeless so that you get a smooth, quiet ride in which you don't feel the engine or transmission vibrate while shifting and can't get a feel for steering. Well this car has none of that and its great because of it.


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