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twdebo42 11-05-2016 09:08 AM

Soon to join the club
 
Hey guys, I've been a long time lurker of the forum been a fan of the GT86 since I first saw it in 2012. Well after the stars aligned (Graduated college, found a good job, Yada yada...) I'm going to be purchasing a '17 BRZ this week. I had a couple of questions though that I hadn't seemed to find so far.

So I drove the '17 Toyota 86 yesterday, both automatic and manual. The improvements they made on the manual do make a noticeable difference. What I haven't figured out though is other than suspension, are there any differences between it and the Premium BRZ? Also for you guys that cross shopped them what OTT pricing like?

My only other questions are about modifying, I was planning on a new suspension set up but I just wanted to make sure the parts for the '16 were able to go on the '17. And also if anyone knew if Subaru is selling the STi lip for the new bumper?

Sorry about the wall of text and thanks for the replies!

softgrip 11-05-2016 10:45 AM

I know in Australia you can buy an STi lip from Subaru (or a full body kit).

'16 suspension stuff should fit the '17. It's basically the same car with very minimal changes. I'm about 90% sure on this :) as I've yet to take delivery of my '17.

Did the 86 have Leather and Alcantara seats? Did it have buttons on both sides of the steering wheel?

twdebo42 11-05-2016 10:48 AM

No the seats in the 86 were cloth just as they were on the FRS, felt pretty nice though. I don't believe there were controls on both sides of the wheel though. I do remember there were on the '17 BRZ Limited I checked out but can't quite remember what buttons were on the otherside.

Australia seems to get all the good stuff! Though I know the car itself costs far more.

Drambeenie 11-05-2016 11:05 AM

I bought the 17 BRZ because the interior is nicer and the car looks better IMO. Also wanted the Brembo brake kit which is only offered on the BRZ. Price wise for premium BRZ is comparable. I think the BRZ might even be cheaper for base model.

HeadBanger 11-05-2016 11:32 AM

I don't know about 'Murcuh, but in Canada an 86 is the same price as a BRZ Sport Tech (the fully loaded one). You're getting A LOT more on the loaded BRZ than the 86.

Tcoat 11-05-2016 12:24 PM

Yep the parts will interchange between years. The 17 suspension would seem to be the same for both cars now. The 86 has slowly drawn closer to the BRZ every model year when it comes to suspension. The Premium has pretty much the same features as the 86 though.

twdebo42 11-07-2016 03:30 PM

Just to update a bit, I signed a purchase agreement today for a World Rally Blue Premium, I'm supposed to take delivery 11/28 and I can't be more happy! Think I got a pretty fair deal, $1k under MSRP and a good deal on my trade in.

acetothermus 11-07-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by twdebo42 (Post 2791647)
Just to update a bit, I signed a purchase agreement today for a World Rally Blue Premium, I'm supposed to take delivery 11/28 and I can't be more happy! Think I got a pretty fair deal, $1k under MSRP and a good deal on my trade in.

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you go with the Limited? Just didn't need/want the extra comforts?

twdebo42 11-07-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by acetothermus (Post 2791762)
Just out of curiosity, why didn't you go with the Limited? Just didn't need/want the extra comforts?

Yeah pretty much, though originally a few years ago I did want a limited. But then I realized how pointless heated seats are in Texas and didn't really like the Alcantara. Also after a mishap with my mom's push button start SUV (which ended up with me having to help push it around a parking lot) I had a strong dislike towards that feature as well.

Xxyion 11-07-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by twdebo42 (Post 2791783)
Yeah pretty much, though originally a few years ago I did want a limited. But then I realized how pointless heated seats are in Texas and didn't really like the Alcantara. Also after a mishap with my mom's push button start SUV (which ended up with me having to help push it around a parking lot) I had a strong dislike towards that feature as well.

Think of it thisway. You are saving weight on options you dont REALLY need =D.

Congrats on the soon to be purchase.I just got my '16 about 5 months ago and i couldnt be happier.

acetothermus 11-07-2016 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twdebo42 (Post 2791783)
Yeah pretty much, though originally a few years ago I did want a limited. But then I realized how pointless heated seats are in Texas and didn't really like the Alcantara. Also after a mishap with my mom's push button start SUV (which ended up with me having to help push it around a parking lot) I had a strong dislike towards that feature as well.

Yeah heated seats are kind of a "why?" for me as well...but it does get "cold" enough where I'm at in Cali to need them a couple of mornings out of the year...so why not? The push button start for me was a must have, as was the key less entry.

What kinds of problems with the push button start did your mom's SUV have? Sorry to be getting off topic, you can PM if you don't want to go into it here.

twdebo42 11-08-2016 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by acetothermus (Post 2791791)
Yeah heated seats are kind of a "why?" for me as well...but it does get "cold" enough where I'm at in Cali to need them a couple of mornings out of the year...so why not? The push button start for me was a must have, as was the key less entry.

What kinds of problems with the push button start did your mom's SUV have? Sorry to be getting off topic, you can PM if you don't want to go into it here.

Was a few years ago now and she has a Kia so that's part of the issue lol...but the mechanism between the brake pedal and the starter had shorted out or something of that nature. So basically it wouldn't start because it thought she wasn't pushing the brake pedal. It was an easily diagnosed issue just a pain in the butt.

Mr.Impreza 11-08-2016 11:00 AM

I don't even know why people like Push Button start. I don't like it at all!
I have it in my 2017 Accord Sport currently and it's simply dumb. So glad my 86 doesn't have that rubbish feature.

Anyways, congrats on the purchase.

Tcoat 11-08-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2792172)
I don't even know why people like Push Button start. I don't like it at all!
I have it in my 2017 Accord Sport currently and it's simply dumb. So glad my 86 doesn't have that rubbish feature.

Anyways, congrats on the purchase.

It is the only thing I miss from my last 3 cars! Push start and keyless entry were very handy and I still try to do it every once in a while.
Walk up touch door handle and NOTHING.
"Aaaaah shit"
Reach in pocket pull out keys while muttering under my breath about stupid backwards technology.

acetothermus 11-08-2016 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792180)
It is the only thing I miss from my last 3 cars! Push start and keyless entry were very handy and I still try to do it every once in a while.
Walk up touch door handle and NOTHING.
"Aaaaah shit"
Reach in pocket pull out keys while muttering under my breath about stupid backwards technology.


I do this with my truck every once in a great while. I've even gone so far as to hit the unlock button on the fob, but not take the keys out of my pocket...so I get in and reach down for the start button and for a half second wonder why I can't find it... Sometimes I'm such a blonde. :(

Tcoat 11-08-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by acetothermus (Post 2792233)
I do this with my truck every once in a great while. I've even gone so far as to hit the unlock button on the fob, but not take the keys out of my pocket...so I get in and reach down for the start button and for a half second wonder why I can't find it... Sometimes I'm such a blonde. :(

I am now caught in the middle of both methods. I jump in the wife's car that does have push button and try to jam my key into a nonexistent hole. Then into my car and push on the dash at a missing button.
Mind you it took me years to stop reaching for a manual choke every time I started a car.

softgrip 11-08-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792238)
Mind you it took me years to stop reaching for a manual choke every time I started a car.

Probably took a while to stop feeding hay and whipping too I'd guess ;P

Tcoat 11-08-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by softgrip (Post 2792258)
Probably took a while to stop feeding hay and whipping too I'd guess ;P

Nah. Never did that. I am not @humfrz

humfrz 11-08-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792263)
Nah. Never did that. I am not @humfrz

Hay, why did you drag me over here ..... ??

Brings to mind the time my little sister's horse got lose in a 20 acre soybean field next to the barn. The horse was running wild and tromping down a bunch of soybeans. She couldn't catch it. My father said "unless somebody gets that damn horse out of the bean field or I'm gonna shoot it"!

My father had a history of shooting "worthless" animals around the farm.

So, my brother and I, armed with a couple of buckets of grain and a rope, finally lured it to the side of the field and tied it up.

My sister came out with a bridle and led it back to the barn.

The next week, the horse was found a new home. My sister has been messed up ever since ..... :confused0068:


humfrz

Tcoat 11-08-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2792358)
Hay, why did you drag me over here ..... ??

Brings to mind the time my little sister's horse got lose in a 20 acre soybean field next to the barn. The horse was running wild and tromping down a bunch of soybeans. She couldn't catch it. My father said "unless somebody gets that damn horse out of the bean field or I'm gonna shoot it"!

My father had a history of shooting "worthless" animals around the farm.

So, my brother and I, armed with a couple of buckets of grain and a rope, finally lured it to the side of the field and tied it up.

My sister came out with a bridle and led it back to the barn.

The next week, the horse was found a new home. My sister has been messed up ever since ..... :confused0068:


humfrz


See!

Dadhawk 11-08-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792238)
I am now caught in the middle of both methods. I jump in the wife's car that does have push button and try to jam my key into a nonexistent hole. Then into my car and push on the dash at a missing button.
Mind you it took me years to stop reaching for a manual choke every time I started a car.

I do the same thing with the gear selector. Half the time when I get in the Suburban, I reach for it in the floor, in the FRS I've been known to reach for it on the column.

Tcoat 11-08-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 2792381)
I do the same thing with the gear selector. Half the time when I get in the Suburban, I reach for it in the floor, in the FRS I've been known to reach for it on the column.

The invisible clutch in my wife's car gets quite a workout when I drive. I also have determined that here shifter does not move sideways like mine does.

humfrz 11-08-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792238)
I am now caught in the middle of both methods. I jump in the wife's car that does have push button and try to jam my key into a nonexistent hole. Then into my car and push on the dash at a missing button.
Mind you it took me years to stop reaching for a manual choke every time I started a car.

I hear that, it took me about 10 years to stop wanting to pump the accelerator a couple times before starting a car...... :bonk:

NO! @Tcoat ...... I never had the residual habit of looking for the spark advance lever ..... :D


humfrz

acetothermus 11-08-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2792388)
The invisible clutch in my wife's car gets quite a workout when I drive. I also have determined that here shifter does not move sideways like mine does.

I used to do the invisible clutch thing when I was driving other cars that were auto.... Finally I learned to plant my left foot on the foot rest or the floor. Otherwise I'd end up left footing the brake pedal and everyone in the car would end up like a Garfield window hanger on the windshield.

bcj 11-08-2016 08:58 PM

Cooked some edamame along with dinner for my dad a couple years before he passed.
He said they grew soy beans for their dairy cows in Stone Lake WI.
Never knew people could eat them. Said they were pretty good.


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