Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=42)
-   -   Problems with Opti-Guard? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11245)

shiud 07-10-2012 06:42 PM

Problems with Opti-Guard?
 
I've been researching the Opti-Guard/Coat benefits and all I read here in the forums is praise. So, I began looking for detailers in my area who offer this as a service. Anyway, in response to one of my emails I received an answer I did not expect:

"No, I do not offer this product nor would I use it. I cannot speak
much more on the negative attributes but encourage you to research
this product before permanently altering the surface of your new
vehicle.

Cheers!"

I believe the guy who replied has been in the business for a while and has a pretty good standing in terms of reviews on yelp, etc. but I don't know why he would not use the product. I thought I had researched enough about it to understand exactly what it does and how it does it, but according to him, there are negative attributes that would stop him, a professional, from using it.

Besides becoming permanent, are there any drawbacks to getting Opti-Guard on my car? Is it a hassle to repair if *knock on wood* *cross fingers* someone grazes my car, or some road debris decides to play tag? I can't really think of any.

Thanks!

denkigrve 07-10-2012 06:46 PM

Google usually turns up dirt, but I'm not finding much. It sounds like that guy doesn't want to use something that puts him out of a job. No need to wax and detail often means less business. The lack of specifics sounds suspicious.

shiud 07-10-2012 06:51 PM

that's what I was thinking.. but just wanted to make sure.
I know a lot of you who have gotten it done for your cars, do you see anything wrong with it at all?

W2 07-10-2012 07:27 PM

No issues with mine and it is not completely permanent, I had 1 imperfection I missed and opti-coated right over and let cure. I simply used some elbow grease and Opti-Polish 2.0 to remove the layer of opti-coat and imperfection. I then went over the area with the opti-coat again, you cannot see any difference from the rest of the car.

Also I researched this heavily before I bought the kit, especially since I was doing it myself. I can't say I found a bad review out there, anything negative was more along the line of it being difficult to apply. Personally the prep was the hardest part, the opti-coat was easy after watching a few videos and understanding how it worked. I am very glad I did it; bugs, bird crap, etc wipe right off and the car stays looking great.

shiud 07-10-2012 07:37 PM

ya, I'm not comfortable doing something like that, myself. Not as knowledgeable or skilled as most of you on these forums :)

bryansbestwax 07-11-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiud (Post 307081)
I've been researching the Opti-Guard/Coat benefits and all I read here in the forums is praise. So, I began looking for detailers in my area who offer this as a service. Anyway, in response to one of my emails I received an answer I did not expect:

"No, I do not offer this product nor would I use it. I cannot speak
much more on the negative attributes but encourage you to research
this product before permanently altering the surface of your new
vehicle.

Cheers!"

I believe the guy who replied has been in the business for a while and has a pretty good standing in terms of reviews on yelp, etc. but I don't know why he would not use the product. I thought I had researched enough about it to understand exactly what it does and how it does it, but according to him, there are negative attributes that would stop him, a professional, from using it.

Besides becoming permanent, are there any drawbacks to getting Opti-Guard on my car? Is it a hassle to repair if *knock on wood* *cross fingers* someone grazes my car, or some road debris decides to play tag? I can't really think of any.

Thanks!

It's just one mans opinion. Go by those that have used it or had it done, not the guy that doesn't have it. Just my 2 cents.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

shiud 07-11-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry Dean (Post 308473)
To ease your mind, I just answered a Private Message about Opti-Guard that I would like to share the answer to.

I was asked:

Hey Garry, my friend was asking me about optiguard and how it looks if it's damaged by someone keying your car or rock chips from driving. How would you go about repairing a car if that were to happen? Thanks!


My answer:

Opti-Guard is essentially an extra layer of clear coat that is much stronger than even the hardest factory clears... ie Mercedes Ceramiclear.

It would look no different, nor require more effort to fix than if the vehicle did not have the OG. Opti-Guard can be reapplied after the area is repaired and will blend in with the old OG with no issues.

Thanks Garry! I think it was your video I saw posted up here a couple days ago, great vid. Man, I wish you were over in Seattle, I'd be a customer for sure :) Also, thanks for clearing it up for me, I had a hunch it was because I wouldn't need the detailer after the opti guard treatment.

autoaesthetica 07-11-2012 02:39 PM

Couple issues here with this information: (coming from an OPT distributor)




In makeup and theory it should be stronger than MB CC - in real life application its not in all cases and should not be repeated as such. It is harder, but the situation of scratching and swirling is NOT the hardness of the top most coating, its a function of the pressure on the particle doing the swirling over a given surface area(think ice skates on ice). Less than ideal washing will produce less than ideal finishes even when the coating is applied. Yes, it does assist in releasing dirt and otherwise abrasive filth. No, it will not allow you to be any less careful.


It does not take away all vehicle maintenance, it assists with lessening bonded contaminates however people who have the coating installed will still need this contamination moderated in some respect. Obviously frequency of washing is going to assist in controlling amount of bonded contamination.

shiud 07-11-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry Dean (Post 308978)
I agree that Opti-Guard is not a free pass to neglect your vehicle.

I also agree that technicalities tend to confuse consumers and throw them off. I was speaking generally and trying to communicate in a manner that most would understand.

Obviously, if you do not wash your vehicle regularly, and in a proper manner, you will be more susceptible to clear coat failure and or paint problems/defects.

When I referred to "maintenance" what I meant was the wax part, not the wash part.
Opti-Guard will help, but do not Opti-Guard it and forget it. :happy0180:

oh, absolutely


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.