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ShadowReaper 10-19-2016 11:23 PM

Who has bought a header...then Turbo?
 
I've been cruising around the forums for some time now about going Turbo or not (most of it outdated). My only other option is just to buy a header. I've been doing mods off of a projected list and have followed it the whole way, header is next on my list if you can understand.

I just want to know who out there has bought a header (either planned, or just thought it wasn't enough) then bought a turbo.

TelMinz 10-20-2016 12:25 AM

I'm sure plenty have. I bought the headers on my car from a guy that did just that. If you're worried about spending frivolous money on a header just to replace it with a turbo down the road, why not go with a supercharger down the road and you won't be buying something just to replace it later. You already have the OFT, which should of helped alleviate the torque dip, if the car feels underpowered for you and you're wanting more, IMO a header isn't going to do too much more to fix that.

tyler_win_photo 10-20-2016 05:45 AM

I think a header is a good way of giving your car a little bump while holding off until you have enough for a turbo. You'll be losing very little in the long run.

Comparing the feeling of a header to FI is night and day though. With a header your car will seem a bit more wholesome due to decreased torque dip, but FI is a whole other animal, it's like driving a completely different car.

ShadowReaper 10-20-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler_win_photo (Post 2779147)
I think a header is a good way of giving your car a little bump while holding off until you have enough for a turbo. You'll be losing very little in the long run.

Comparing the feeling of a header to FI is night and day though. With a header your car will seem a bit more wholesome due to decreased torque dip, but FI is a whole other animal, it's like driving a completely different car.

Thats actually exactly what ive been thinking of doing! Getting a header, along with the oft i already have... I do have enough to just slap a turbo on but its more of a decision thing, by the time i make up my mind, i rather have some more fun through the gains of the header and sound..

bfrank1972 10-20-2016 08:29 AM

I know that P&L's header is modular, you can get that header, and then later buy their kit to go with that header. Just another option.

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Freddy@PTUNING 10-20-2016 10:24 AM

Also depends on the FI route you take. Most headers work with our turbo kit.

jasonojordan 10-20-2016 10:29 AM

Im going the route others have said. Header 1st to delay FI a little longer then if I still feel the need for more power I'll just go supercharger and keep using the ACE header I plan to buy.

go_a_way1 10-20-2016 10:32 AM

I have had a header on my car for 3 years now. My turbo just showed up yesterday lol. I think it was worth it for the sound alone. I am just selling the header cheap to the guy who is letting me use his hoist for the install

ShadowReaper 10-20-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bfrank1972 (Post 2779165)
I know that P&L's header is modular, you can get that header, and then later buy their kit to go with that header. Just another option.

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Originally Posted by Freddy@PTUNING (Post 2779194)
Also depends on the FI route you take. Most headers work with our turbo kit.

I actually haven't heard of this. Sounds pretty smart.

Freddy@PTUNING Does the Borla or OFH work on your kit?

ShadowReaper 10-20-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2779198)
I have had a header on my car for 3 years now. My turbo just showed up yesterday lol. I think it was worth it for the sound alone. I am just selling the header cheap to the guy who is letting me use his hoist for the install

Nice. What header is it? I love the borla sound

Freddy@PTUNING 10-20-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowReaper (Post 2779270)
I actually haven't heard of this. Sounds pretty smart.

Freddy@PTUNING Does the Borla or OFH work on your kit?

Yes they do :thumbsup:. We jig our turbo kit to work off of a factory header so any factory replacement header will work. Unfortunately the ACE header will not work because it has the over pipe built in.

bfrank1972 10-20-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowReaper (Post 2779270)
I actually haven't heard of this. Sounds pretty smart.

Freddy@PTUNING Does the Borla or OFH work on your kit?

Yup - only caveat is P&L is EL, so won't work if you want UEL :) But I have one and I think it's pretty awesome (build quality, power, sound)

PTUNING has a very cool solution, and a nice quality kit to boot.

In the end though it's not a huge deal - just re-sell whatever header you buy if you want to go with a turbo kit that has a custom manifold included.

Or just go supercharger ;)

go_a_way1 10-20-2016 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowReaper (Post 2779271)
Nice. What header is it? I love the borla sound

Borla lol. Quality is shit but sounds good

Synkopy 10-20-2016 01:47 PM

I'm actually not buying a header because I fully intend to turbo. I feel it would be a waste of time and money.

go_a_way1 10-20-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Synkopy (Post 2779320)
I'm actually not buying a header because I fully intend to turbo. I feel it would be a waste of time and money.

Its not if you ask me. Maybe if your going FI in like 6 months then yeah but if its years down the road enjoy the headers

armstrom 10-20-2016 01:54 PM

Just to put it out there, the Works turbo kits also make use of the factory header just like PTuning so you could buy an upgraded header and later go to either kit. Of course, I make no claims about the quality/performance of either kit (you can find plenty of reviews for both kits on here) There is a substantial price difference between the two, but you should make your decision based on more than just price :)
-Matt

Synkopy 10-20-2016 01:55 PM

I believe ultimate racing turbo kit also uses an up pipe from the factory header as well.

armstrom 10-20-2016 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Synkopy (Post 2779325)
I believe ultimate racing turbo kit also uses an up pipe from the factory header as well.

Interesting, I had not seen that one before. Here's a link for anyone curious: http://www.ultimate-racing.com/colle...-frs-turbo-kit
The price is pretty reasonable (as it should be without a complex custom exhaust manifold) however I have no idea about the quality of the kit. Thanks for the tip!
-Matt

ShadowReaper 10-20-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2779318)
Borla lol. Quality is shit but sounds good

A lot of the shitty build talk I have seen were from the version one. I have only seen one shitty wield with the V2. Their reputation on the forums comes from people that just heard/saw from someone else.


If I notice anything wrong with what I get, I will return it in a heartbeat. The sound is so good tho, that I'm willing to take that chance.


OFH is an alternate however.

Amputechture 10-20-2016 03:15 PM

I ran an OFH on E85 for a year and went turbo over the summer. I have no regrets about doing it...even recouped 3/4ths of my N/A build costs. I had a huge leak in my charge pipe at first and even then it felt like night and day compared to E85/Header.

go_a_way1 10-20-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowReaper (Post 2779399)
A lot of the shitty build talk I have seen were from the version one. I have only seen one shitty wield with the V2. Their reputation on the forums comes from people that just heard/saw from someone else.


If I notice anything wrong with what I get, I will return it in a heartbeat. The sound is so good tho, that I'm willing to take that chance.


OFH is an alternate however.

Yeah even with its shit quality it sill works and sounds great. I would still recommend it. to people, Just don't expect those stacked dime JDM welds lol

ShadowReaper 10-20-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputechture (Post 2779413)
I ran an OFH on E85 for a year and went turbo over the summer. I have no regrets about doing it...even recouped 3/4ths of my N/A build costs. I had a huge leak in my charge pipe at first and even then it felt like night and day compared to E85/Header.



That's awesome!

TRACE_on 10-20-2016 04:00 PM

I ran the OFT/OFH combo for a year. It was better than stock but I got the craving for big power. Now I'm running a turbo and am looking at flex-fuel tune next year.

FirestormFlex 10-20-2016 04:57 PM

I ran Tomei UEL headers and OFT from 3k to 15k miles. After that I sold them and made the upgrade to turbo.

Tectoniic 10-21-2016 12:25 PM

OFT stage 1 at about 600-700 miles. Good but not enough
E85 with OFT OTS tune at 1.4 k miles. Better but still not enough
E85 OTS w/ Headers at 4k. Currently at 15k with this setup still but looking to go for more.

Turbo is purchased and waiting to go on after the winter. Still worried that will end up not being enough after I get used to it :bellyroll:

IMHO I would start with headers first. It may be all you are looking for and like others have mentioned most SC kits will work with the headers and some of the turbo kits will as well and worst comes to worst just sell your header to someone.

Hagbard 10-21-2016 12:42 PM

Ran a header (revworks) for 2 years before going Turbo and then just sold the header.

GhostOp86 10-21-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowReaper (Post 2779009)
I've been cruising around the forums for some time now about going Turbo or not (most of it outdated). My only other option is just to buy a header. I've been doing mods off of a projected list and have followed it the whole way, header is next on my list if you can understand.

I just want to know who out there has bought a header (either planned, or just thought it wasn't enough) then bought a turbo.

I bought header before turbo . Open flash header bolt right on works stage 1- 2 turbo kit no problems.

GsxrMe 10-21-2016 09:01 PM

I managed to not buy 1 damn thing other than a shark fin to save for the turbo. But all said and done I am super... happy

randomthoughts 10-21-2016 09:08 PM

Just buy a used header and sell it after if it is not compatible with the turbo kit you decide to go with. I had to make the same decision. I have the header on now and will be going FI next summer. I am happy I installed the header in the mean time.

ShadowReaper 10-21-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 2780543)
I managed to not buy 1 damn thing other than a shark fin to save for the turbo. But all said and done I am super... happy

Props for that. Not a lot of people can resist the mod factor before turbo.

GsxrMe 10-21-2016 11:12 PM

Yep, it never stops, once you start spending the ball keeps rolling.


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