Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2798846)

These are not exactly a normal order and the standard Subaru 2 moth turn around may not apply.
We shall see in a month. Or two. Or maybe three.
I am not trying to bring you guys down or be a pessimist but they were very clear that it was a late 2016 or early 2017 build and said so many times.

Originally Posted by Drambeenie (Post 2798915)

December is late 2016.

Originally Posted by prj3ctm4yh3m (Post 2798856)

rhetorical question, CSRs probably dont have a quota...

it's not a person at all. Operations plugged in an ETA in the computer based on whatever factors Operations uses. The CSR reads the letters that appear on the screen. it cant get any more objective than that.

If subaru's estimate is uncharacteristically wrong, then it is wrong. whether Subaru's estimate turns out to be accurate or not is anyone's guess.

saying we were lied to is really missing the point here and doesn't add any value to the disussion imo

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2798854)

Not arguing. Voicing my opinion based upon the available data. I have no clue on what the CSR quota is for order retention as I have no data or information on which to base an opinion. You can ignore the clear statements Subaru made and go by whatever individual that tells you what you want to hear if you wish. I will stick to what I interpret the statements to be. One of us will be proven wrong in a month. If it is me I will humbly apologize.

Originally Posted by jtaeric (Post 2799008)

I have to say that I believe you maybes right about the delivery date. According to the information we have for now, it is a reasonable prediction that the pp cars will not be here before Jan 2017. I really appreciate your information since it is the most reliable source I have to determine when I should sell my current car.


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Originally Posted by Drambeenie (Post 2799019)

We'll see what the dealer has to say once he receives the list of cars he'll be getting for December. Once he has that list there won't be any more speculation about December.

Originally Posted by johan (Post 2801180)

FWIW, I ordered my non-PP car in late August, they told me at the time that Subaru's estimate was the last week of December.

I called them October 28th for an update, Subaru had not yet issued a VIN.

November 15th, they called me to tell me that the car had arrived at the dealership (after I had left a message canceling my order, mind you).

Sooooo.... this is a cautionary tale - Subaru's systems are "sure" and "yes", and their estimates are "lol". And what the dealership says is..... even more "haha".

I have a close buddy that has a PP car on order locally with an ETA of "March" - so we'll see...

Originally Posted by prj3ctm4yh3m (Post 2801196)

who is "them" that you called oct 28? sounds like the dealer doesnt know what they're doing.

Originally Posted by johan (Post 2801180)

FWIW, I ordered my non-PP car in late August, they told me at the time that Subaru's estimate was the last week of December.

I called them October 28th for an update, Subaru had not yet issued a VIN.

November 15th, they called me to tell me that the car had arrived at the dealership (after I had left a message canceling my order, mind you).

Sooooo.... this is a cautionary tale - Subaru's systems are "sure" and "yes", and their estimates are "lol". And what the dealership says is..... even more "haha".

I have a close buddy that has a PP car on order locally with an ETA of "March" - so we'll see...

Originally Posted by prj3ctm4yh3m (Post 2801169)

got word first PPs are expected mid-Dec. take it or leave it.

Originally Posted by jmark (Post 2801722)

Just curious do you have a VIN yet?