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5AD86D 10-11-2016 07:51 AM

NEW FUEL PUMP RELEASED....
 
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For those of us still under warranty this may help. Not sure of the results yet.

JD001 10-11-2016 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 5AD86D (Post 2772153)
For those of us still under warranty this may help. Not sure of the results yet.

I'm wondering if the replacement will be offered in Europe... a phone call to the local dealers is imminent.

5AD86D 10-11-2016 08:00 AM

Not sure but its worth a try. I'm fairly sure with the right call a replacement pump can still be done as long as the issue still exists which we all know it does.

gt86ser 10-11-2016 08:17 AM

hmm, my 2013 has the chirps, and falls before the vin production. :popcorn:

JD001 10-11-2016 11:02 AM

Called my local dealer's service department and they're not aware of any warranty recalls regarding fuel pumps. They have asked me to get the car booked in for a check-up and they'll go from there.. I think best wait for Subaru to organise a warranty recall or wait until I am next at the service department.

FX86 10-11-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2772210)
Called my local dealer's service department and they're not aware of any warranty recalls regarding fuel pumps. They have asked me to get the car booked in for a check-up and they'll go from there.. I think best wait for Subaru to organise a warranty recall or wait until I am next at the service department.

those damn dealerships are slow and clueless..earlier this year i called my toyota dealership about the recall for the automatic fr-s regarding the ignition key where it may be possible to remove the ignition key without the transmission being in the "Park" position.

they had no idea about this recall even though they mailed me a notice about the recall ...they said they would have to talk to the service advisor first and see if any parts are needed and give me a call back...it doesn't require a part it just needs to be confirmed a certain cable is connected according to their repair procedure... and they never called me back

a couple months later i bring it in for service and give my service consultant the recall papers and say can you guys look at this...he said we weren't aware of any recall (i'm thinking it's been almost 3 months and you guys still don't know about this recall?)..but he passed it onto the mechanic and they marked it off as complete and all good...i knew it was good because i couldn't remove the key in any other gear than Park but i wanted them to officially document that the recall was take care of...they probably don't have a clue about this fuel pump tsb either but i'll call them just because i enjoy bothering them to do their jobs and earn their paychecks

ATL BRZ 10-11-2016 11:49 AM

Where's the Subaru TSB?

fang_gt86 10-11-2016 11:58 AM

Keeping my fingers crossed..

Impureclient 10-11-2016 12:00 PM

I made my appointment for today. It's just to confirm it's chirping today. They said they don't have the new pump yet.

Tcoat 10-11-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2772210)
Called my local dealer's service department and they're not aware of any warranty recalls regarding fuel pumps. They have asked me to get the car booked in for a check-up and they'll go from there.. I think best wait for Subaru to organise a warranty recall or wait until I am next at the service department.

It isn't a "recall". The TSBs only tell the techs what to do if the car is presented with that issue not as a notice that the issue exists.

FX86 10-11-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 5AD86D (Post 2772157)
Not sure but its worth a try. I'm fairly sure with the right call a replacement pump can still be done as long as the issue still exists which we all know it does.

where did you find this TSB document? I looked on the web and couldn't find a central official site for scion TSB..where do you find these TSBs?

funwheeldrive 10-11-2016 12:25 PM

Hmm, maybe I will bring my car in soon. I'm still on the stock pump. Lots of crickets.

Tcoat 10-11-2016 12:31 PM

Well it appears the TSB is newly dated but the pump it self is not and didn't work.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107724

fang_gt86 10-11-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2772277)
Well it appears the TSB is newly dated but the pump it self is not and didn't work.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107724

Guess back to square one, again?.. Won't be a surprise if Toyota ended up pulling a "Samsung Note 7" case and just tell everyone to deal with it.. lol

5AD86D 10-11-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2772255)
where did you find this TSB document? I looked on the web and couldn't find a central official site for scion TSB..where do you find these TSBs?

I work for Toyota parts currently so this came straight from toyota thru TIS. The pump is new and would have to be ordered. Im in the southeast region and it shows we have only 1 available so its gonna go backorder regaurdless. And yes TSBs are not recalls so you would need to take a car in for inspection to confirm chirping exists before a replacement can be issued.

Impureclient 10-11-2016 02:10 PM

Dealer is saying the part number on that new tsb is not the one used for the newer 16s or 17s. That's a different part coming up.

5AD86D 10-11-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2772345)
Dealer is saying the part number on that new tsb is not the one used for the newer 16s or 17s. That's a different part coming up.

This is correct...as I just confirmed it myself thru the Toyota parts catalog. The 13-17 all show to use the latest SU003-06089 number which is also showing to be replaced per the TSB to that new number in the bulletin.

Tcoat 10-11-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 5AD86D (Post 2772352)
This is correct...as I just confirmed it myself thru the Toyota parts catalog. The 13-17 all show to use the latest SU003-06089 number which is also showing to be replaced per the TSB to that new number in the bulletin.

The new part number on the bulletin has been in the system since July.




http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=41


Also available from parts places for a while now.
http://www.overstockoemparts.com/oe-toyota/su00307326
http://www.oempartworld.com/oe-toyota/su00307326

Impureclient 10-11-2016 02:40 PM

Back from dealer. This is a dead end. It is just a new part number on the same part and nothing else.

JD001 10-11-2016 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2772366)
Back from dealer. This is a dead end. It is just a new part number on the same part and nothing else.

Are you the Judean People's Front? ... We're the People's Front of Judea!

Impureclient 10-11-2016 03:09 PM

https://media4.giphy.com/media/5xNRz6J9Ulco8/200.gif#25

Nothing to see here any more, move along people.

Tcoat 10-11-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 2772380)
Are you the Judean People's Front? ... We're the People's Front of Judea!

Wankers!

Tcoat 10-11-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2772382)
https://media4.giphy.com/media/5xNRz6J9Ulco8/200.gif#25

Nothing to see here any more, move along people.

https://i.imgflip.com/1c5yhe.jpg

ToySub1946 10-11-2016 06:17 PM

My Crickets have not caught fire yet, so I'm not gonna worry about it till that happens...possibly down the road ? ...we'll see.

extrashaky 10-11-2016 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2772560)
My Crickets have not caught fire yet, so I'm not gonna worry about it till that happens...possibly down the road ? ...we'll see.

Aside: I have seen crickets catch fire.

I once worked on a movie starring an elephant running around in a swamp in Florida after escaping from the circus. Because what better place for a circus than a swamp. We had a bunch of 18 and 20 kilowatt lights set up to light up the fish camp where the circus was staged. When the sun went down, a cloud of mole crickets rose up from the swamp and swarmed our lights. Those lights get pretty hot, so the crickets would fly into them, catch fire and spiral smoking to the ground to land in a steaming pile underneath each light.

They smelled delicious. I wish I were kidding. The crew was talking about how good they smelled, but nobody was brave enough back then to try one.

nextcar 10-11-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2772853)
Aside: I have seen crickets catch fire.

I once worked on a movie starring an elephant running around in a swamp in Florida after escaping from the circus. Because what better place for a circus than a swamp. We had a bunch of 18 and 20 kilowatt lights set up to light up the fish camp where the circus was staged. When the sun went down, a cloud of mole crickets rose up from the swamp and swarmed our lights. Those lights get pretty hot, so the crickets would fly into them, catch fire and spiral smoking to the ground to land in a steaming pile underneath each light.

They smelled delicious. I wish I were kidding. The crew was talking about how good they smelled, but nobody was brave enough back then to try one.

Having spent time in Southeast Asia (Laos, Cambodia, Viet Nam, and Thailand), I can assure you many people eat crickets and consider them a treat. They taste pretty good as bugs go...

5AD86D 10-12-2016 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2772366)
Back from dealer. This is a dead end. It is just a new part number on the same part and nothing else.

From what I see this definetly seems to be the case. I'm probably going to order one for stock here and compare them anyway.

JD001 10-12-2016 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 2772870)
Having spent time in Southeast Asia (Laos, Cambodia, Viet Nam, and Thailand), I can assure you many people eat crickets and consider them a treat. They taste pretty good as bugs go...

Enjoy, a Beijing favourite! The little scorpions were still wriggling! Not tried them yet!!

Tcoat 10-12-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 5AD86D (Post 2773028)
From what I see this definetly seems to be the case. I'm probably going to order one for stock here and compare them anyway.

Please let us know what you find. I may appear to want to dismiss any news but that is not the case. I just want to be sure that when or if they actually do something different it will work and not just be the same old thing rehashed yet again.

g0lds 10-12-2016 10:42 AM

Just thought I'd share - my MY14 BRZ had crickets. I took it to the dealership 3 days after I bought it, they replaced it with the updated unit and no more crickets with Costco 93 and Mobil 93 octanes. Just recently made the switch to E85 at a Mobil and the crickets were back immediately at start up. By the time I got home they were quiet again.

TL;DR - new/redesigned pump seems to have fixed crickets for me at least.

Tcoat 10-12-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by g0lds (Post 2773086)
Just thought I'd share - my MY14 BRZ had crickets. I took it to the dealership 3 days after I bought it, they replaced it with the updated unit and no more crickets with Costco 93 and Mobil 93 octanes. Just recently made the switch to E85 at a Mobil and the crickets were back immediately at start up. By the time I got home they were quiet again.

TL;DR - new/redesigned pump seems to have fixed crickets for me at least.

Different fuel and temperatures have different results. It may not be the pump that changed you just hit on the right combo. E85 has been very rare in causing crickets so you have yet another variable in the mix. In order to say without a doubt that the pump changed anything you would need to run all different brands of fuel through it at varying temperatures.
I can make mine come and go at will by using certain fuels at specific times of year.

FX86 10-12-2016 03:20 PM

his fuel brings all the crickets to the yard

xFury 10-12-2016 09:42 PM

Had the "new" fuel pump installed today at Toyota.

No more chirp. I'm currently on Costco 91, which had the chirp before this new one.


Hopefully it's fixed, but I'ma give it a month or so before saying it's fixed.


2016 FRS

Tcoat 10-12-2016 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xFury (Post 2773680)
Had the "new" fuel pump installed today at Toyota.

No more chirp. I'm currently on Costco 91, which had the chirp before this new one.


Hopefully it's fixed, but I'ma give it a month or so before saying it's fixed.


2016 FRS

Let us know. Almost every person to get their pumps changed started out with "New pump no chirps" but the vast majority were back within a week.

ATL BRZ 10-13-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xFury (Post 2773680)
Had the "new" fuel pump installed today at Toyota.

No more chirp. I'm currently on Costco 91, which had the chirp before this new one.


Hopefully it's fixed, but I'ma give it a month or so before saying it's fixed.


2016 FRS


Remember, you have to get the engine and pump HOT and you have to be running low lubricity fuel, like gasoline with 10% ethanol sold at most pumps in the US. Then you'll know if its chirping or not.

ATL BRZ 10-13-2016 11:17 AM

Here's a glimpse of the Subaru TSB# 09-54-12R, which is dated 9/27/16

http://i.imgur.com/94HR4DQ.jpg

BRZoomTX 10-13-2016 11:26 AM

Embrace the crickets. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Spartarus 10-13-2016 12:34 PM

Draw a wide line from Alaska to South Florida, via New York. I've fueled in all those US states, and Canadian provinces, and never heard a single cricket.

With forced induction, etc... for almost 30,000 miles.

I've always thought the "bad fuel" or "poor lubricity" argument was, at best, a lip-service band-aid for very poor manufacturing tolerances, and very poor material quality control.

Automotive gasoline has very low lubricity, and the variation between fuels is inconsequential.

Similar issues are evident all over the engine and car, from axle nuts to sealing surfaces. Why should the DI fuel pump be any exception?

Yanbags 10-13-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2773934)
Here's a glimpse of the Subaru TSB# 09-54-12R, which is dated 9/27/16

Do you happen have a pdf copy or a full pic of the latest TSB revision? Curious about what the changes are compared to the last one.

Tcoat 10-13-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartarus (Post 2774000)
Draw a wide line from Alaska to South Florida, via New York. I've fueled in all those US states, and Canadian provinces, and never heard a single cricket.

With forced induction, etc... for almost 30,000 miles.

I've always thought the "bad fuel" or "poor lubricity" argument was, at best, a lip-service band-aid for very poor manufacturing tolerances, and very poor material quality control.

Automotive gasoline has very low lubricity, and the variation between fuels is inconsequential.

Similar issues are evident all over the engine and car, from axle nuts to sealing surfaces. Why should the DI fuel pump be any exception?

I don't think it is lube related and not all the fuels that create them for me are "bad quality" but I do know without a doubt that if I go to any Esso station when it is 75 degree or more out I WILL have crickets. I can run just about anything else when hot and Esso when cool with zero issues but can turn them on just by using Esso when it is hot out.


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