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wyatt263 09-30-2016 07:35 PM

OFT Stage 1, Newb Questions
 
Just installed a stage one OFT for 93octane fuel. I may be noticing more engine noise, not intake noise, badddd engine noise. Or maybe I'm just listening to it more carefully since I've installed a tune. Is this tune safe? My LTFT is around - 7%, isn't that a little low? I've got an Injen cold air intake that claims to be tuned and has a little tube bypassing the MAF sensor, could that be messing up my fuel trim? Also, I noticed on the data log on WOT the parameter only reads 97% and there's about 1/8in of dead spot at the beginning of the pedal, is there a fix for that? Already went through ignition cycles to hopefully re-learn it, but to no avail. This is my first time tuning and I have no idea what to look for.

Teseo 09-30-2016 07:48 PM

Dead pedal will gone soon, let the ecu learn parameters.
Noise can be valvetrain

NyC Zn6 09-30-2016 08:07 PM

When I first tuned my car with the OFT I also noticed an increase in sound as well. Vtec just kick in yo..

PandaBRZ 09-30-2016 08:12 PM

You're hearing the more aggressive valve timing from 3-5k RPM.

guybo 10-01-2016 09:36 AM

-7% at idle is nothing to worry about. But check LTFT after a couple hundred miles when ECU has learned the new trims. It sounds like you haven't put that many miles on so what's your total fuel trims (LTFT + STFT) at idle and at 2500 RPM? At stage 1 at idle mine were around -5 or -6, less negative at 2500 RPM

The extra noise I heard at stage 1 seemed to be in the torque valley RPMs. I figured the tune was changing the cam timing to compensate for the torque hole. I'm not sure though, I have no way to verify. But when you tune, sounds change. When you have an intake, you hear the new sounds louder. Don't sweat it.

At stage 2, there's a whole different set of noises to fret over!

D_Thissen 10-01-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wyatt263 (Post 2765518)
Just installed a stage one OFT for 93octane fuel. I may be noticing more engine noise, not intake noise, badddd engine noise. Or maybe I'm just listening to it more carefully since I've installed a tune. Is this tune safe? My LTFT is around - 7%, isn't that a little low? I've got an Injen cold air intake that claims to be tuned and has a little tube bypassing the MAF sensor, could that be messing up my fuel trim? Also, I noticed on the data log on WOT the parameter only reads 97% and there's about 1/8in of dead spot at the beginning of the pedal, is there a fix for that? Already went through ignition cycles to hopefully re-learn it, but to no avail. This is my first time tuning and I have no idea what to look for.

Yup, that's normal. I believe it has to do with the drive by wire. The dead spot will go away after a 100km (60miles) or so.

DarkSunrise 10-01-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wyatt263 (Post 2765518)
Just installed a stage one OFT for 93octane fuel. I may be noticing more engine noise, not intake noise, badddd engine noise. Or maybe I'm just listening to it more carefully since I've installed a tune. Is this tune safe? My LTFT is around - 7%, isn't that a little low? I've got an Injen cold air intake that claims to be tuned and has a little tube bypassing the MAF sensor, could that be messing up my fuel trim? Also, I noticed on the data log on WOT the parameter only reads 97% and there's about 1/8in of dead spot at the beginning of the pedal, is there a fix for that? Already went through ignition cycles to hopefully re-learn it, but to no avail. This is my first time tuning and I have no idea what to look for.


Use this procedure to get rid of the dead spot after re-tuning. Always works for me.

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Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 1009769)
Could try Jeff Perrin's suggestion of turning car on without starting the engine, fully press and release gas pedal 20 times, turn car off, turn on without starting again, press and release 20 times again, then start engine. No more ECU reset dead pedal.

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As for negative fuel trims, try posting a data log after a few hundred miles.

fibble 10-02-2016 10:01 PM

Less than 100% throttle at WOT is completely normal for these cars.

You need to read some of the OFT tips and tricks posts. All will become clear :D.

Jrider 11-01-2016 01:50 PM

I just tuned my car with the OFT to stage 1. I have a perrin CAI, and a perrin catback. I noticed what sounded like a terrible engine noise right around 4000 RPM. It sounded bad like the original poster said. I thought it was related to the intake perhaps. Flashed back to stock and it is gone. So this raspy, almost grinding loud noise is normal??? Will the stock airbox continue to produce this sound if I put it back on?

phrosty 11-01-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrider (Post 2787493)
I just tuned my car with the OFT to stage 1. I have a perrin CAI, and a perrin catback. I noticed what sounded like a terrible engine noise right around 4000 RPM. It sounded bad like the original poster said. I thought it was related to the intake perhaps. Flashed back to stock and it is gone. So this raspy, almost grinding loud noise is normal??? Will the stock airbox continue to produce this sound if I put it back on?

It's normal and not related to your intake. It is caused by aggressive VVT tuning to reduce torque dip.

BirdTRD 11-01-2016 02:57 PM

slap a header on it and flash stage 2 tune....that noise will go away! :burnrubber:

Synkopy 11-03-2016 04:36 PM

Noise is still there with stage 2. Can confirm. Just not as loud.


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