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rkaywhodat 09-28-2016 12:52 PM

Question regarding Hill-start assist control
 
I apologize if this in the incorrect section, I had no idea where to post this question.

On the 2017 Toyota 86 it comes with Hill-start assist control which is disabled by default according to the manual. It seems logical to turn it on as it sounds useful, although it mentions to not depend on it with icy roads (common sense). Im not familiar with this feature nor incredibly automotive savy therefore I wonder is this something I want enabled and should I disable during winter months?

Thanks for any input

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Tcoat 09-28-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rkaywhodat (Post 2763448)
I apologize if this in the incorrect section, I had no idea where to post this question.

On the 2017 Toyota 86 it comes with Hill-start assist control which is disabled by default according to the manual. It seems logical to turn it on as it sounds useful, although it mentions to not depend on it with icy roads (common sense). Im not familiar with this feature nor incredibly automotive savy therefore I wonder is this something I want enabled and should I disable during winter months?

Thanks for any input

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If used to a MT just leave it off and drive like normal. If new to MT then use it through the learning period and then gradually get used to driving without it. It is a great tool to learn on but until every other car ever made has it you don't want to become dependent in it's use or you will have issues with any other MT car you try to drive.

MarkR171 09-28-2016 01:19 PM

Agreed with Tcoat.

My 500 Abarth was the first car I owned with hill start, so I tried it. I felt it was harder to drive smoothly on hills with it on than with the system disabled. It holds the brake for you in order to let you get in gear before rolling back, but what that does is it sometimes requires you to give it more throttle than needed to disengage the braking.

If you can handle hills without problem with the system off, keep it off.

krayzie 09-28-2016 02:27 PM

And giving it more throttle than needed will make you look like a total noob in traffic. Well either that or stalling it.

8RZ 09-28-2016 02:29 PM

Great advice so far. Drive your car, learn your car, and you will never need to use hill-assist.

A little trick I used to use back when I was 16 was holding the e-brake up to prevent the car from rolling back and then released it once the clutch engaged.

FR-Sky 09-28-2016 02:35 PM

E-brake is your best friend =]

Tcoat 09-28-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 2763555)
Great advice so far. Drive your car, learn your car, and you will never need to use hill-assist.

A little trick I used to use back when I was 16 was holding the e-brake up to prevent the car from rolling back and then released it once the clutch engaged.

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2763558)
E-brake is your best friend =]

Great tool to use to learn but still need to know how to do it without one. I have never pulled a handbrake on a hill in 40 years of driving. Mind you there was no handbrake for 30 years of that and since the foot engaged parking brake's life expectancy was about 6 months before they seized or snapped you had to learn to do without.

MarkR171 09-28-2016 03:20 PM

The only two times I have ever used the ebrake was when coming out of very steep underground parking garage ramps.

8RZ 09-28-2016 03:28 PM

Well, I'm from FL, land of the hot and flat lol. We are not used to any kind of hills, generally.

FX86 09-28-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ (Post 2763596)
Well, I'm from FL, land of the hot and flat lol. We are not used to any kind of hills, generally.

we mostly drive in boring straight roads..nice scenic routes though

FR-Sky 09-28-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2763579)
Great tool to use to learn but still need to know how to do it without one. I have never pulled a handbrake on a hill in 40 years of driving. Mind you there was no handbrake for 30 years of that and since the foot engaged parking brake's life expectancy was about 6 months before they seized or snapped you had to learn to do without.

In san francisco ...you have to use it...cus your car is pointing 55-70 degree upward and the taxi or car behind you is like only 2 fists of distance...

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The only two times I have ever used the ebrake was when coming out of very steep underground parking garage ramps.
Completely understood....i dont get why underground parking garage have such steep entrance/exit...
I had once got stuck in a very steep underground park exit with traffic....and the steep exit is very long too.....

Tcoat 09-28-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2763618)
In san francisco ...you have to use it...cus your car is pointing 55-70 degree upward and the taxi or car behind you is like only 2 fists of distance...

Wuss. Then it just becomes a sport!

Jollibee86 09-28-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2763618)
In san francisco ...you have to use it...cus your car is pointing 55-70 degree upward and the taxi or car behind you is like only 2 fists of distance...


Completely understood....i dont get why underground parking garage have such steep entrance/exit...
I had once got stuck in a very steep underground park exit with traffic....and the steep exit is very long too.....

55-70 degrees? yeah...I don't think so :D

http://puu.sh/rr82O/128bead3d0.jpg

FR-Sky 09-28-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jollibee86 (Post 2763774)
55-70 degrees? yeah...I don't think so :D

http://puu.sh/rr82O/128bead3d0.jpg

https://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/b...2/Nob-Hill.jpg

I dont know about texas,, I usually dont drive my 86 to SF. It is a pain to drive a lowered car, manual in SF.


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