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bluesblue 09-26-2016 06:34 PM

Just some fun stats on boxer motors
 
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LostSalad 09-27-2016 05:09 AM

Moral of the story: I want a turbo

sav 09-27-2016 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2762283)
Moral of the story: I want a turbo

Until you've experienced the shitty power delivery...

Fish Eagle 09-27-2016 06:15 AM

If you want some interesting comparisons, then add columns for mass and power to weight ratio.

Then add 86 RGM S/C low boost 9psi,
86x86, 2.0L, 300bhp, 315Nm, 1220kgs

And add 86 RGM S/C med boost 11psi (1 size smaller pulley), approx
86x86, 2.0L, 360bhp, 370Nm, 1220kgs

Fish Eagle 09-27-2016 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2762283)
Moral of the story: I want a turbo

@sav is 100% right.
I've got a turbo Forester and an SC 86, and I'll take the SC any day :)

The whoosh of power when a turbo kicks in feels great, but...
All that glitters isn't gold.

sav 09-27-2016 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 2762297)
@sav is 100% right.
I've got a turbo Forester and an SC 86, and I'll take the SC any day :)

The whoosh of power when a turbo kicks in feels great, but...
All that glitters isn't gold.

Exactly. I prefer the linear power delivery and zero lag of a supercharger.

bluesblue 09-27-2016 10:26 AM

Meh just imagine if the 86 had 2 more cylinders it would have been a 3L 307.5bhp beast. And maybe with higher compression 12.9:1 pistons!!!

sav 09-27-2016 10:34 AM

They're already not liking our fuel, raising the compression even further would be interesting.

2.5 FA25 wit direct & port injection, same compression would be awesome.

Twinz 09-27-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesblue (Post 2762370)
Meh just imagine if the 86 had 2 more cylinders it would have been a 3L 307.5bhp beast. And maybe with higher compression 12.9:1 pistons!!!

And more weight on the nose of the car.

LOLS2K 09-27-2016 01:15 PM

What gives, no Crickets column :iono:

Fish Eagle 09-27-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLS2K (Post 2762503)
What gives, no Crickets column :iono:

Nope, we got really crap fuel, but no crickets.
Sounds like crickets are a US thing...?
The only chirping my car does is the rubber variety :)

My fuel pump does sound a bit rattly at times, but it's been like that for years.
Whatever... :) No stress.

Vic_RSA 09-28-2016 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLS2K (Post 2762503)
What gives, no Crickets column :iono:

I had crickets at one stage. It's a curse of the high-pressure fuel pump. I haven't changed a thing and my crickets left. I also had the rev-dip issue - still happens from time to time on hot days but mostly it sorted itself out. :bonk:

LostSalad 09-28-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish Eagle (Post 2762297)
@sav is 100% right.
I've got a turbo Forester and an SC 86, and I'll take the SC any day :)

The whoosh of power when a turbo kicks in feels great, but...
All that glitters isn't gold.

Well yeah. Just another reason why number comparisons never show the full story...... and everyone seems to really love the numbers these days.

Driving around Red Star with worn street tyres and stock power... I just kept thinking to myself.. "holy crap, I love this car!"

bluesblue 09-29-2016 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LostSalad (Post 2763731)
Well yeah. Just another reason why number comparisons never show the full story...... and everyone seems to really love the numbers these days.

Driving around Red Star with worn street tires and stock power... I just kept thinking to myself.. "holy crap, I love this car!"

What pisses me off is the car reviews which is bullshit, especially with the reviews where they put the 86 against the new Miata. They don't even use the correct fuel for the 86 and slippery stock tires.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maZyPJIOknE"]Engine Knock Sound - Explained - YouTube[/ame]

Our cars are severely retarded on 95 fuel, and does not show the full picture. I use Liqui Moly octane booster sometimes and there is a big difference, but that being said I believe the ECU is factory tuned specifically for the coast.


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