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BirdTRD 09-16-2016 03:50 PM

Am I level? Where do I check, you ask?
 
I know this may be painfully obvious for some and some of you may just think close enough is good enough, but not everyone shares that sentiment, so be nice. :)

OK. So I'm about to change my AT fluid and the procedure is pretty specific about some details, i.e. exactly how much fluid to put in, how much to drain out, exactly what temperature the AT fluid is to be at, making sure the vehicle is level.... and from what I understand, if it's not just right, it won't shift correctly and I only want to do this once!

Now since I have to do this using 2 different sets of jack stands and on a garage floor that is already NOT level (and most garages are not, mine was a full 2 inches lower where the rear tires sit as compared to the front tires), I got to thinking, where is the best spot to place my 2 foot level to make sure my car is indeed level, once I'm up in the air.

So I drove my rear wheels up onto 2 inches of wood then found a nice, easy spot to check, turns out, right on the door threshold is just about perfect.

http://i.imgur.com/XcJdOvX.jpg



As far as side to side, the intake manifold makes for a nice place to lay your level. (as you can see, mine is off just slightly right to left but my floor is off that same amount)

http://i.imgur.com/FBNgwb8.jpg



Floor left to right (for comparison sake)

http://i.imgur.com/mFTLuAz.jpg

Brayden_23 09-16-2016 04:08 PM

You might be overthinking this. As long as you are generally on flat ground, this should be a non-issue. Your car needs to be on flat ground so when you fill up the transmission, the fluid will seep out when full. If you are on a pronounced hill, you may overfill or underfill (depending on orientation). However, on a very minor slant such as your 2 inch difference in your garage, I don't think you will encounter any issues.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

Toyarzee 09-16-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brayden_23 (Post 2754536)
You might be overthinking this. As long as you are generally on flat ground, this should be a non-issue. Your car needs to be on flat ground so when you fill up the transmission, the fluid will seep out when full. If you are on a pronounced hill, you may overfill or underfill (depending on orientation). However, on a very minor slant such as your 2 inch difference in your garage, I don't think you will encounter any issues.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

I second this notion

BirdTRD 09-16-2016 04:25 PM

I completely understand and maybe that 2 inch difference doesn't matter, but once the car was up on jack stands, who knows if maybe I got it even lower in the rear, now it's 3 inches out. Where do you draw the line? :iono:
I was just looking for a good place to slap a level on, just to make sure I had a good point of reference. Might as well know where 0 is.

JD001 09-16-2016 04:33 PM

Wow!! I just love this forum! Always learning something new to consider and worry about!

JD001 09-16-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers (Post 2754569)
:lol: my bullshit allergy flares up something rotten at times...

Well, I was going to suggest a posh lazer level as spirit levels are prone to deviation due to air pressure and whether the reading is taken at sea level.

Ultramaroon 09-16-2016 04:48 PM

Nothing wrong with peace of mind. I suggest referencing the flange for the pan. Not the bottom because that's set at an angle.
**edit: Or I could take a crack at the service manual where I would discover that the car should be level. I agree with the door threshold reference.**



Try a google image search for "tx6a transmission."

http://scionparts.villagetoyota.com/...ze/358360A.jpg

BirdTRD 09-16-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2754579)
Nothing wrong with peace of mind. I suggest referencing the flange for the pan. Not the bottom because that's set at an angle.

Try a google image search for "tx6a transmission."


Thanks for being Level headed!

Ultramaroon 09-16-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdTRD (Post 2754586)
Thanks for being Level headed!

Oooooo... *cough cough*

JD001 09-16-2016 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers (Post 2754585)
I'm now bricking it as I've just googled and the world isn't flat.

In Subaru land things come in 4's and flat! But not level according to bottom flange on the pan.

DarkSunrise 09-16-2016 05:10 PM

I had the same issue (sloped garage floor) when doing my MT trans fluid and rear diff fluid. Like OP I used a level on the door sill. No issues, worked fine.

Mr.ac 09-16-2016 09:58 PM

I'd check the car level on the pinch weld rail, not on the engine or the interior.

Ultramaroon 09-16-2016 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 2754793)
I'd check the car level on the pinch weld rail, not on the engine or the interior.

http://i.imgur.com/MmKPtWT.png

The_mediocre_guy 09-17-2016 03:42 PM

the paranoia in this thread is real


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