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86wtywly 09-11-2016 05:18 PM

Downshift to 1st at low speed
 
Out of curiousity, do you guys downshift to 1st at low speed, for example like 7, 8 mph or keep it in second.

some ppl mention always double clutch to first. however, i tried to single clutch downshift to 1st with rev matching, it works fine. No clucking or grinding. Is it necessary to downshift to 1st with double clutch? try to practice double clutch a few times but end badly.

Tcoat 09-11-2016 05:40 PM

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't depends on what I am going to do next.
Never double clutched this car once for any reason.

FR-Sky 09-11-2016 05:46 PM

it depends. 7 mph can have a lot of scenarios
For example,,if going up hill stop sign like San Francisco. i definitely down shift first gear

mdm 09-11-2016 05:53 PM

Double-clutching these days is as necessary as having a crank in your car to start it.

Unless in very specific difficult circumstances, like a steep uphill, I have never felt the need to downshift to 1 as long as the car is still rolling. And that was in cars with far less power AND torque than the twins.

D_Thissen 09-11-2016 06:03 PM

I granny shift, not double clutch like I should have.

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2750742)
Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't depends on what I am going to do next.
Never double clutched this car once for any reason.

some ppl mention double clutch downshift protects the whole transmission. However, i tried it but failed. Its kinda hard to do it in the real life situation than how they mention the way to double clutch orally.

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2750749)
it depends. 7 mph can have a lot of scenarios
For example,,if going up hill stop sign like San Francisco. i definitely down shift first gear

do u downshift like i do or u actually DOUBLE CLUTCH.

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers (Post 2750753)
You've answered your own question. Use what is fine for you.

still, i wanna make sure i did everything right to my car though

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2750758)
Double-clutching these days is as necessary as having a crank in your car to start it.

Unless in very specific difficult circumstances, like a steep uphill, I have never felt the need to downshift to 1 as long as the car is still rolling. And that was in cars with far less power AND torque than the twins.

2nd gear all the way then? sometimes when in traffic in freeway at low speed, i use second to follow the car in front of me. However, my car shakes a little though.

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2750764)
I granny shift, not double clutch like I should have.

no double clutch necessary then?

FR-Sky 09-11-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86wtywly (Post 2750769)
do u downshift like i do or u actually DOUBLE CLUTCH.

No, i dont double clutch...not really necessary...

menikmati 09-11-2016 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 86wtywly (Post 2750774)
no double clutch necessary then?

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mdm 09-11-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86wtywly (Post 2750773)
2nd gear all the way then? sometimes when in traffic in freeway at low speed, i use second to follow the car in front of me. However, my car shakes a little though.

Well this may depend on the specific car, but in all manual cars I have driven (note: no twin among them) it was perfectly fine to stay in 2nd. Even at very slow speeds I found it unnecessary to downshift to 1st. And rolling slowly in 1st is hard to be done smoothly as there is huge engine braking effect, so when you lift your foot the car may become jerky.


I only downshift to 1st after complete stop, or if maneuvering like getting into a parking spot, or over a curb or large holes and bumps on an unpaved road, or rarely up a steep incline.

Being lazy, in stop-and-go traffic I'd even start in 2nd sometimes to save myself the effort of shifting and pressing the clutch every 4 seconds...

86wtywly 09-11-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2750788)
Well this may depend on the specific car, but in all manual cars I have driven (note: no twin among them) it was perfectly fine to stay in 2nd. Even at very slow speeds I found it unnecessary to downshift to 1st. And rolling slowly in 1st is hard to be done smoothly as there is huge engine braking effect, so when you lift your foot the car may become jerky.


I only downshift to 1st after complete stop, or if maneuvering like getting into a parking spot, or over a curb or large holes and bumps on an unpaved road, or rarely up a steep incline.

Being lazy, in stop-and-go traffic I'd even start in 2nd sometimes to save myself the effort of shifting and pressing the clutch every 4 seconds...

However on this car rpm falls below 1000 at second gear when the speed is 6 7 mph. When you try to move the car at second, the car shakes a little though as if it tries to engage with the gear or something


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